We will put the question forward.
Everyone will attempt to answer it from their
perspectives.
Then Maitreya-ji will come in with the
best answer, the further clarification about it.
If there are any questions from the general audience
here today or any one that they would like to put
forward, you can type it in text or come to the
microphone.
Just let us know.
Let us take one question at a time.
Also we do have a list of questions that have
been previously sent in to the Mission.
Roththeory, the question that you just typed is centered
on “the son,” and that is a word that is used in a lot
of the religions.
What does son really mean in reference to the
Mission teachings?
Anyone can jump in with that.
Tahirah:
Well, in the Glossary in THOTH,
the Son of God is an Avatar.
Being many Avatars that have come to the earth,
they are not the Messiah that brings the truth.
Shirin:
What do we have to do to become a son?
Rohtheory:
I think we have to realize the Divinity within
ourselves.
Shirin:
That would be the first step.
That is part of the First Seal.
But there are Seven Seals.
What comes after that?
Anyone else?
There is a verse in The Revelation, the last book
in the Bible, that talks about son.
It is Revelation 21:7, “He that overcometh shall
inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall
be my son.”
What does that tell us?
Rohtheory:
That we should always believe in God, maybe.
That although sometimes there is difficulty of
going in the face of the Pure One, God, do not surrender
to hopelessness, and things like that, to the dark?
Shirin:
But what are we overcoming?
It says, “He that overcometh.”
What are we overcoming?
Unus:
Also we have to overcome the ego, the lower self
of the human.
We have to overcome this.
Shirin:
But how do we overcome the ego?
Rohtheory:
By Law.
Unus:
By following the
Eternal Divine Path.
Shirin.
So, going back to the original question,
“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will
be his God, and he shall be my son,” to be a son means
then, could we say, become in the image of God?
Now, there is Son as the First Begotten Son.
That is different.
What is the difference between the First Begotten
Son and “I will be His God and he shall be My son,”
spelled with a small “s”.
What is the difference there?
Ananda Ma:
Sal-OM everyone.
I hope you can hear me.
Great.
What I was going to say is that the First
Begotten Son was the first one to reach Pure
Consciousness even before the worlds were created.
Shirin:
According to what Rohtheory typed, “But in the
Koran I read that we should not accept the word,
‘son.’”
If you study the Mission’s teachings, you will
see that the Koran and the teachings of Islam is
the Fourth Seal.
In order to know the whole truth we have to know
the Seventh Seal.
The Seventh Seal is where we get the clarity
over, for example, what Prophet Muhammad was trying to
clarify at that time for the Christians and the ones
before about what ‘son’ really means.
It is not a physical son.
In the Mission, son then is expanded and
understood to be able to be in His Image, to follow the
whole Eternal Divine Path, to reach the goal
through His Grace, and to return completely back to God,
which the Koran also says that we have to return
to God.
If we were returning, then we were with God at one point
and already in His Image.
We can see how it is so important to know what
these things mean from the Seventh Seal perspective,
which is the Mission of Maitreya and THOTH.
I do want to go back up to your question so everyone can
discuss it too.
You also asked, “Was Krishna a Divine Son?”
Maybe someone would like to comment on that.
Maitreya:
Sal-OM everyone.
I guess I will jump in here.
I like this session.
I like these questions and answers.
Actually it is
time for the disciples and the people in the Mission
to get on with the teaching.
Probably we can think to bring the same kind of
forum in the MOM gathering.
We can discuss the questions and go back and
forth, answer and clarify.
That is fantastic.
I should stay back more often and see you discuss it.
Of course if you need help, I will be there.
This was a beautiful discussion.
Participate more and more.
You are the teachers now.
The Revelation is finished, and you have to take it and
run with it out there and let the people hear how much
knowledge each of you has.
You have more knowledge than the best scholar in
every religion on earth.
Great.
The question is if Krishna is the highest as in
Prabhupada.
He was the founder of the Krishna movement.
Rohtheory says that is the highest.
As we teach, Krishna, Buddha, Shiva, Mohammad,
Christ, all of them have been called Messiah, or the Son
of God, or the representative of God on earth.
As we teach, any time the Spirit of God is on
them, when they give Satsang, or they reveal the Word of
God, they are One with God.
Other times they are just regular humans.
As Christ said, I am the Son of God and no one goes to
the Father but through me.
Another time he said, No one is good, not even a
Rabbi, that they called him a good Rabbi.
In that moment he was just a regular person.
All this is true about all the Messiahs that Krishna was
one of them.
Therefore he was indeed God when God was on him.
He could have manifested the universal form of
God when that time was necessary for him to do that.
By understanding our teachings, all these
questions become very clear.
Also the word, “The son of God,” as it was
explained here in the Mission, clearly explains
that “son” is not physical.
Son means being in the image.
Therefore, the son is in the image of God.
When God’s Spirit is on the person, or on the Messiah,
he is the Son of God.
He mostly is in the image of God.
When you become the son of God you also become in
the image of God and you manifest God’s qualities of
mercy, compassion, knowledge, and everything that the
son can manifest as the image of God.
If a Moslem understands what it means to be a son of
God, and Christians also understand what it means, then
they would agree with each other.
They would not have disagreement, and they would
understand that it does not mean a physical son.
Therefore both can come together and unify.
Again in our teaching we have unified these questions.
Now humanity can come together.
When Christians say, “Christ was the Messiah,” also when
Prophet Muhammad was receiving the revelation, God’s
Spirit was on him, which is The Holy Ghost, and he
revealed the revelation.
Even in the Koran it says, “Listen to the
word of God,” or the word of Prophet Muhammad, “His word
is Mine.” It
means that My Spirit is on him and whatever he says is
what I would say.
He and the Father were one.
Therefore he was the Son of God, and he was the
Messiah.
We can see that Prophet Muhammad was also the Messiah.
Christ was Messiah.
All the Great Manifestations have been Messiahs
on earth, and they do not have anything to fight with
each other about anymore.
Those are dogmas that create fights among them.
The answers to the questions have all been given.
The second question you have typed is, “The number of
living entities that exist.
Is that infinite or not?”
They are not.
They are the ones that fall away from the Light,
and they create the darkness.
Their number is finite.
If there is another question, pose that in the
room. And if
you have any follow-up, go ahead and add to it.
Shirin:
I am not sure I understand that last question,
Rohtheory.
Maybe someone else does?
The question is, “Did Krishna experience God-beingness?
This means knowing the future, looking into all
corners, etc.”
Maitreya:
I think Rohtheory is trying to say that because I
said that the Spirit of God is on that person, and God
and him are one, does that mean that that person knows
the future, and “looking in all the corners, etc.”
So does he see everything that God sees and
knows? That
is a good question.
What is the teaching of the Mission on
that?
Actually, all of your questions are already answered in
the website.
As you study you will find, “My question is answered
here or there.”
The people in this room who are in the Feast, or in the
room, or have been with the Mission, should know
the answer.
So we leave it to them to answer the question
Rohtheory:
Personally I believe that there is a God that
knows everything and is a Spiritual Being, some logical
Being, but really Spiritual and knows everything at
once. It rises up from the sky, like what are those
belts in the sea, in the ocean?
And like this, He knows everything.
Maybe there are not infinite beings.
I do not know because you were talking about dark
beings.
But since God knows everything from the Spiritual view,
then we somehow have to realize, when we realize our
self, I think maybe we can have a glimpse of that.
But I do not think we can have the complete
Godness because there can only be One God.
Maitreya: Rohtheory, I would love for you to know our
teachings.
It seems you are not afraid to take the microphone and
talk about them.
That is great.
Come on everyone; let Rohtheory know that you know what
is the answer to the question.
Go ahead.
Timothy:
If my memory serves me from reading THOTH,
it does say that those who overcome will become My son,
and the qualities that the Father has, so does His son
have. As I
posted it, it is to be used toward establishing His
Will, the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
That also includes that we should not misuse
those powers that are given to us because it is said in
THOTH that miracles do not make stronger
believers.
Maitreya:
Very good, Timothy.
Now he is asking that since the Spirit of God is
on the Prophet or on the Messiah, does the Messiah know
the future too as God knows?
What is your answer on that?
Unus:
I would say that when you reach Pure
Consciousness, you would be in the image of God.
But, of course, God is everything.
You are just one of the many sons of God.
I think Rohtheory, you are not going to be God,
but you are going to be a son of God when you overcome
the lower nature, ego.
You reach Pure Consciousness, Pure Intuition.
You will have The Grace.
I believe it will be a little different than our
understanding of knowing everything.
You are just so graceful.
You might have whatever is necessary, you might
have the powers and whatever is necessary for that
position. If
it is necessary, you might manifest things.
If it is not necessary, you might just be a
regular person.
Maitreya:
Great Unus.
Again, the question he is asking is, “If the
Messiah knows the future?”
What is the answer to that?
Unus:
Well, I would say that the future belongs to God.
Maitreya:
Well you said it, didn’t you?
Exactly.
Very good.
OK, the answer is that God gives to the Prophets
and the Messiahs also, as much as He wants to.
He has given the vision of the future to Prophet
Daniel, for example.
He gave him the vision of what is going to
happen.
Even the Prophets before this Revelation revealed a lot
of truth, but they did not know the Seventh Angel.
God did not reveal it to them.
Therefore they did not know and they did not give
it to humanity.
In this time God gave everything, all the answers to all
the questions.
The only thing He said, as Unus mentioned is, the
future belongs to God.
He gave us a glimpse of what is going to happen.
We know after this Revelation there is going to
be a silent period.
After that is going to be the tribulation and
destruction.
Eventually humanity has to realize that there is God,
this is the Seventh Revelation, and they all have to
come and join under the banner of the Mission
unified.
There are going to be 1,000 years of the Kingdom of God.
And then the fall again, we all come back, we all
get on the Internet and Pal Talk, talk about it, and
create the Communities of Light again.
And we create the Kingdom after that for at least
12,000 years.
We can see that we know the future but we do not know
the details.
That is because it depends on human acceptance and
reaction to this Revelation.
As we said in the letter, if everyone tomorrow
puts sackcloth on their heads and says, “We are sorry.
We are really messing it up.
It is not going according to the Word of God,”
the Kingdom is going to come tomorrow.
But if they resist and everyone says, “No.
I am not going to do it.
I am not going to go.
It is too hard,” or this and that, “I have my
ego, and I am going to keep it and stay with it,” then
it is going to be delayed, and we have to wait until
humanity is ready.
So the future depends on the free will of man.
If they exercise their free will, and choose God
and His Word, the Kingdom is going to come fast.
If they resist it, it is going to take longer.
I hope that answered your question.
If anyone wants to jump in, go ahead.
Rohtheory:
Well, what I heard is that nowhere it is written,
how it comes that God exists?
I have some theory on that.
I am a little bit afraid when I talk about it
that it won’t be true, or something like this.
Then my whole theory starts to burn to pieces and
I feel bad.
Maitreya:
The best way for you is to go to the website,
study our teachings, and see what is the theory of the
Revelation that God sent as the last Revelation of God.
Then you adjust your theory to our theory and
eventually see exactly what the Will of God is.
Then not only will you have the answer, you can
give it to everyone else, and after that everyone will
agree with you.
I have been giving these answers for the last
twenty-five years.
I have almost never seen anyone disagree and say,
“No. No.
No.
What you say does not make sense.”
If you learn our teaching, after that no one is going to
say you were wrong, and you are not going to feel bad at
all. I think
the best way for you is to go to the website, study the
teaching, adjust your theory, and after that everyone
will listen to you because you will make sense.
Rohtheory:
OK. I
will go there.
Thank you.
Maitreya:
You are welcome.
Thanks God.
Shirin:
Just jumping in on the tail end of that, there
are a lot of theories out there and a lot of them are
really close but there is also a lot of very scary
things that the religions and doctrines, and so forth,
are using to scare people with, books, and conspiracy
theories, and end of the world theories, and things like
that. It is
a lot of confusion.
It feeds a lot of fear.
And people get very fearful about the future.
But one thing that really calms my mind, and the
certainty of this is just so comforting, is that it
really does not matter what happens.
No matter what happens, God said that His Kingdom
would come.
So if we want to say, “What is the future?” we say,
“God’s Kingdom is coming.”
Maitreya:
Absolutely.
Also remember the story of the man who was around
when someone yelled, “Mad elephant!”
He said, “Oh well, God is going to take care of
me.” The mad
elephant came and put his trunk around him and threw him
to the bushes with thorns in them, and he was pretty
badly wounded.
The warning of the coming of the tribulation and
destruction has been given.
Michael sent me an e-mail, and he was talking
about some visionary.
I had never heard his name before.
He is a gentleman from Romania who lives very
close to Russia, around a mile from the border.
He eventually was arrested and sent to the United
States. He
had a lot of visions of the future.
He gave a lot of things that were going to
happen.
Of course, I do not know how much he was connected or
not, but his visions were really terrible.
It was just like the Bible and those
visions that he had.
So it was a kind of warning, or even all over the
world, for humanity.
I am a little concerned for the people who are in the
places that seem to be a little inside that tribulation
belt or area.
They have to get out.
They have to listen to God and say, “Yes,
Maitreya is there, we are in the Mission, and
God said that, ‘I am going to take care of you,’ but at
the same time God said, ‘Let’s get out of this area and
go to the safest area.’
We have to accept that and then take some action
so we are not caught with the mad elephant right in
front of us.”
If there are any other questions, bring them up.
If I have missed any questions, let’s repeat them
and see what they are.
We will go from there.
But I like this that we all are becoming involved
and starting to teach.
Tahirah:
There is a question that was asked.
“Why are there now Fifteen Commandments instead
of ten as in the Old Testament?”
Maitreya:
This is one of the questions that has already
been given in the question list.
And therefore, we open the room to answer the
question.
Rohtheory:
Dear Lord Maitreya, is this live?
To see you in my inner world as a thing of love,
I mean not like they say in Buddhism, there is
Nimanikaya and there is Samboakia, I do not know the
exact words.
In the inner worlds you feel joy, etc., and you are
emanating the theme of love.
So can I call upon you in the inner world, with
the blessings of God, please?
Maitreya:
Well, you can do even better.
You can just go to our website and see my picture
there. Of
course, as you know, God is everything so Love is a part
of Him. He
is also the Builder, the Creator, and the Destroyer.
You can meditate on seeing me anyway you want,
but God behind me is much more than just Love.
He is the teacher.
He is the husband.
He is the wife.
He is the child.
He is the friend.
He is the disciple.
He is the Master.
Actually, if you go to the Golden Keys, at the
very end there is a small essay that says, “Who Is
Maitreya?”
It tells you who he is.
You are welcome to do that but you can see me in
the website.
There are pictures of me that you can meditate on.
But go beyond the picture to the Formless,
Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal, and become a son of
God instead of getting caught into one son of God.
I hope that answered your question.
Still we continue with the question, “Why are there
Fifteen Commandments now, and it was Ten Commandments
before?”
Rohtheory:
I think when there were Ten Commandments that was
for that time and then after the Seventh Seal has been
opened then all religions are complimentary to each
other and this time maybe it is much more useful to have
these Fifteen Commandments, right?
Maitreya:
You have not read the teachings, and you answered
pretty well.
Very good.
Very good answer, Rohtheory.
Rohtheory:
I have this tendency to be myself in the world
when I meet people, and so on.
Sometimes I am maybe a little bit overwhelming, a
little bit foolish.
Maybe, I do not know.
Maitreya:
That is OK, Rohtheory.
You just meditate and work on your good part and
overcome the part that might make people feel that you
do not know what you are talking about.
After a while people will start listening to you
because you are going to say the things that are in the
Mission and are in the website, and they are all
going to make sense.
As long as God does not think we are foolish, it does
not matter what humans say.
Rohtheory:
I also believe in the world there is little
communication to me about spirituality so I felt a bit
lost, but now it is really better I think, especially
with the website here.
Maitreya:
Thanks God.
Yes, if you really study our teaching it might
help you a lot.
It sure helped me.
Unus:
Most people here can relate to being lost, the
world not making sense, and then finding the Mission
and the teachings.
It puts everything together, makes a lot of
sense, creates a future, and creates a Vision.
So at least I can relate to you Rohtheory, and
all of us here can.
We all have had that experience.
Then the teachings bring everything together,
make sense, and clear the purpose.
I think as we go deeper in the teachings, as we learn
more, read more, and start to live the teachings, not
just understand them intellectually but try in time to
experience them in the world, then they make more sense
and they clear everything out.
A psychiatrist or psychologist can just give you
self.
Timothy:
I have found a level of peace in the miracle of
the Message and in reading THOTH, a peace
in trusting God and knowing that the future is God’s but
that God has created this creation and has a plan for
it, a direction, a goal for it.
I am learning more to trust and have faith in
that, and learning to see where action can be taken to
help facilitate God’s Plan.
But there is a Peace that comes from reading THOTH.
I have found that is the clarification of other
previous revelations and the parts of them that just did
not quite ring a true ring of Peace.
There was a slight undertone of some sort of
deception.
So THOTH helps to clarify those things
that are truthful in previous revelations but are
tainted with human ideas.
Rohtheory:
So we are talking here about God.
I think it is so wonderful that He filled your
need absolutely.
We are part of Him.
He is also wonderful I think.
Maitreya:
All parts of Him are wonderful.
Shirin:
Since we were talking about the Fifteen
Commandments, again they are in THOTH in
Essays 3.
I flipped through them, and it is interesting
that our discussion here is about, I am hearing how
there is chaos in the world, there is darkness, there is
confusion, and it is no wonder that people feel fearful
and unbalanced.
These things manifest because the world is so far
away from what God’s Plan is.
The cure, the solution, to that sickness that the
world has, is number Ten in the Fifteen Commandments:
Attach to God.
It says, “To
keep the mind immersed in the ideation of God, to remain
attached to God, and to accept Him as the only Refuge,
the only King, and His Laws as the only Laws.”
If we realize who Maitreya is, what the Seventh
Seal is, what THOTH is, and we just
immerse ourselves, then all of a sudden our sanity comes
back, our clarity comes back because we are focused and
attached only to God.
Timothy:
I think that is a good point, Shirin.
Since finding the teachings I have turned just a
little more, albeit, more towards 100%, but it is 55%
towards God, or 68% towards God, and hopefully 100% one
day towards God.
The more we turn towards God, the more we have
that in our lives, the more Peace and Trust there is in
God.
Rohtheory:
It may be interesting to tell it, or to state
maybe that Love is intuition.
Unus:
I would say that love is one of the things, one
of the great things that opens the door to pure
intuition, as well as compassion and mercy.
It is part of intuition, I would say.
Maitreya:
Actually you might say that intuition includes
love and compassion, and compassion is greater than
earthly love.
Also we have to say, what is the love you are
talking about?
Are you talking about earthly love, Divine Love?
Divine Love becomes compassion.
When you have intuition then you have compassion.
Does that make sense?
Rohtheory:
I was talking about Divine Love.
Maitreya:
Divine Love is the deep understanding that comes
with empathizing with the universe and the darkness.
In that empathy we will create compassion toward
the struggling darkness.
That compassion has great Divine Love in it, and
therefore we can see the darkness and its struggles,
their attachments, desires, and failings.
And that is the greatest Love.
That is why I have always said that compassion is
greater than love because compassion is equal with
corrective love.
Some people call it the tough love.
You correct the darkness toward light.
That comes with the intuition first.
So intuition is greater than even love.
That is knowingness without being able to
explain.
Tahirah:
How does that relate to God taking away the
intuitive powers after the flood of Noah when man had
their Third Eye, and taking away that Third Eye?
I was wondering how that relates to what we were
talking about, as far as intuition?
Maitreya:
Can anyone answer that?
Timothy:
I will take a try.
Man had gotten to such a state of ignorance and
self-centeredness that intuitive consciousness and God’s
Plan and direction of establishing the Kingdom was
directed toward their own mundanity and self-worship.
So taking away that ability from man and setting
him on a course to correct himself, to knowing that God
is the way and the truth, so that when that intuitive
understanding returns they will not be tainted with our interests of
self-glorification.
Maitreya:
We have a winner!
That is it. Very
good. Even
you have intuition and you know the Will of God.
If you use that intuition and power toward your
lower nature and as she said, self-glorification, what
happens to that intuition?
It is a fallen intuition.
It is a darkened intuition.
A lot of politicians have intuition, the ability to make
people feel good, promise a lot, and when they have the
job and office they do not follow it at all. That is a
siddhi. The
very siddhis itself is misused.
Very good Timothy.
Shirin:
I remember a story, I do not remember if it is in
THOTH or a Satsang, where it compared God
to being a good parent.
Like a good parent would take matches away from a
child if the child is going to burn himself or cause
destruction.
God saw that humanity was being so impure that He took
that away.
It just always strikes me in my mind, God is a good
parent and He watches out for us.
Maitreya:
Absolutely.
Yes, if they are good parents.
And they do not argue either because they are in
the same Being.
That again goes back to the Fifteen Commandments.
Of course that answer was great.
If there is any one else who wants also to take that one
up and explain a little more about that, that would be
good.
There is also the story about the Ten Commandments.
Some people say there might have been more than
ten. They
say five of them might have been broken after Moses
threw the Commandments and broke them; later one part of
them was lost.
That is another explanation.
But I think the explanation of Rohtheory was more
correct:
That was the Ten Commandments for then, and this is the
Fifteen Commandments for now.
It is the time of the Fifteen Commandments and to
add to it the commandments that need to be added to the
Word of God.
So now we have Fifteen Commandments.
I just received a question from Rohtheory.
He is asking, “What is detachment from Maya, and
what is OK in life?”
Maybe we can tackle that question now with everyone.
Remember, take the microphone and participate.
Learn how to teach.
It is time for you.
Go ahead.
Rohtheory:
First, I think that when Love is the only Law it
can be from a good intention, and yet there can be much
wrong with it.
I think that it is also the Will of God to give
people’s freedom.
Maitreya:
I like the right intention and right attitude.
You might have a good intention but if your
attitude is not very nice, loving, correct, and
respectful, and the ability to make other people feel
that you really mean to help, not to dominate, then that
would be a great way of presenting your good intention
toward other people.
That phrase “good intention” is great, a very
good thing.
But good intention is not always delivered well.
So not only do we have to have good intention but
deliver it correctly with the love and the good
attitude.
Anyone else want to answer that question:
“What is detachment from Maya and what is OK in
life?”
Unus:
Well, I would say that detachment from Maya is
doing the action, doing the sacrifice but surrendering
the result to God, not being attached to the result.
You just told us, work for the best and then, of
course, expect some results.
But when you do your best, whatever happens is
God’s Will.
That way you give the result to God and you just be
content with the result because you know that this is
God’s Will.
That will bring detachment from Maya.
Maitreya:
You have the grip of the reality.
Even the great yogis did not know such a
beautiful way of escaping the trap of Maya.
If we really follow the Eternal Divine Path, try
to create the Communities of Light, sacrifice,
surrender and submit, and become a universalist, we
indeed escape the Maya and the attachment to it.
Anything that made us attached to the physical
world, we recognize is temporary.
We can meditate on it.
Go through with it and see the end, “I really do
not want it.
It is going to be destructive.
It is going to be bad for me, the Mission,
and my journey back home.”
Therefore you avoid the traps of Maya in the
world through your meditation.
You can go through the worst desire you have that might
be in your way and see the end of it.
No matter how terrible it is, “It is OK.”
Just meditate on that.
Go through with it.
Then at the end say, “No.
I do not want it.
I want God.
I want greater things, which are permanent.”
Those are the things OK in life.
Follow God’s Way.
Meditate on the things that are the desires and
the wants for you.
Overcome them and go further toward purification
and God.
The great grip of reality has been given to humanity
through the Eternal Divine Path.
As Unus explained, that is how you escape being
attached to the Maya:
By doing your best, following the Eternal
Divine Path, creating the Communities of Light,
reaching to humanity to spread this Mission,
expect results, but do not be attached.
Unus:
Also, I think it would be nice to say here what
detachment is not.
That is because according to the teachings again,
like this time with the Eternal Divine Path,
following the Eternal Divine Path, we are not
escaping the world.
We are detached from the world.
We are not escapists like in the past, like the
yogis, or we just do not go to the top of the mountain,
meditate, and forsake the society.
Rather we stay in the world, and we meet the
social and political issues.
Exactly.
Then stay in society, meditate, but at the same
time follow the Eternal Divine Path, staying
active.
So attachment is not just escaping but being surrendered
and submissive to God and giving the results to God.
Tahirah:
Why are there now Fifteen Commandments instead of
Ten as in the Old Testament?
I think that question actually answers itself
because the Ten Commandments are in the Old Testament.
We now have the new Revelation, and so there is
more.
Maitreya:
Yes. That
makes sense to me.
Timothy:
I love the beauty of simplicity sometimes, how
the obvious is not always immediately evident.
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