Know Thyself, Children's Program, Do You
Have To Believe In Reincarnation?, Do You Believe Like The Hindus
That We Evolve From Animals? Were All Unit Consciousnesses Created
At One Time?, What Would Be The Best Thing To Say To Someone Who
Argues Against The Mission?, Are We Able To Believe In All Religions
And Faiths?, Did Esa Ever Have A Wife?, Can We Practice Other
Religions and Join The Mission?, How And Why Will Each Feast Be
Different?, When We Meditate, How Do We Know Ourselves?
Satsang (Discourse) With
Maitreya
At The Feast Of Tabernacles
10/07/90
Children's Program
Let's unify
humanity. Every one of these signs in The Greatest Sign will
show us how to reach this goal. [Now, as the seal was announced, one
of the children would carry that seal in, stand in front of the
audience and the announcer read what the sign meant.]
Awakening: Here we have the first seal. This
seal is for us to know ourselves, so that we can know God.
Communities of Light: Here we have the second
seal. This seal will help us bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth
through the Communities of Light.
Sacrifice: Now we have the third seal. This seal
teaches us how to sacrifice in order to reach our goal. In order to
reach this goal we have to open our hearts to all mankind.
Surrender and Submission: This fourth seal is
the Islamic seal. We must never think that we are the doer. We must
know that God does everything through us. And, we must not be
attached to the result.
Universalism: Then we come to the fifth seal.
This seal teaches us how to love and help the whole universe,
because God is everything.
Paravipras: Next is the sixth seal, the seal of
the Paravipra. This seal allows God to manifest the Kingdom Of
Heaven Within. The Paravipra will also struggle with God to bring
the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Pure Consciousness: Now we have the seventh seal
which was brought to us by Maitreya. This seal completes The Greatest Sign and is Pure Consciousness. When we complete
our walk on this Eternal Divine Path, we will become Pure
Consciousness and become One with God.
Now we're going to ask the audience to help us by
naming the seals. [The children came back in with the seals and the
audience called out which seal they were carrying.]
Can anyone please name this seal? [Audience] Awakening!
Can anyone name this seal? [Audience] Communities
of Light!
Can anyone name this seal? [Audience] Sacrifice!
Can anyone name this seal? [Audience] Surrender
and Submission!
Can anyone name this seal? [Audience] Universalism!
Can anyone please name this seal? [Audience] Paravipras!
Can anyone name this seal? [Audience] Pure
Consciousness!
And what do we have? [Audience] The Eternal
Divine Path!
Maitreya: Good. That was pretty. That was very
nice. Another good thing to do is to write children's books about
THOTH, like they have children's books about the Bible.
Maitreya : After doing such a good job, you want
a name? What does Jason mean?
Jason: A healer.
Maitreya : A healer. But who really does the
healing?
Jason: God.
Maitreya: OK. Then we will call you Josiah. It
means the Lord heals. So when you heal you will know it is not you
who is healing. God heals through you, Josiah.
Gabriel, do you know what Gabriel means? It means,
God is my strength. Whoever relies on the strength of God is going
to become a hero of God. That's why we will call you Gabor, the hero
of God. Are you going to become a hero of God? That's your spiritual
name, Gabor.
Of course, after you become older, after you become
initiated, etc, if you want another name, I will give you another
one. That name is just for the time being.
That's a good way to teach The Greatest Sign,
through the children in a play. That's a very wonderful thing to do.
I learned something about The Greatest Sign
tonight.
Satsang
Question :
Do we have to believe in reincarnation to believe in the Mission?
Maitreya: If we say, "I believe in something,"
or "I don't believe in something," it's just like a dogma, "I
believe in this set of dogmas in my religion to become a religious
person." But, as we said, there are dogmas and there is truth. That
is why we have to have a discerning mind, and to question everything
that comes to us as a set of beliefs. We have to think about them.
We have to meditate about them. Then we decide if they are the
truth, or if they are dogma.
If we say, "If you don't believe in this set of
rules you cannot stay in the Mission," then we are saying you
should follow these dogmas. "You have to believe in this set of
rules, or this set of beliefs, to become a part of God's work." That
is not how the true seekers of the truth look at God and His
universe. They look at it. They question it. They ask about it. They
meditate on it. Eventually they come to this conclusion, "Well, it
makes sense." Then they believe it.
They don't believe in reincarnation because I say,
"You have to believe in reincarnation." If I say, "You have to
believe in reincarnation," and you say, "Maitreya says I have
to believe in reincarnation so I believe," that is not the way the
true seeker will find the truth. The true seeker says, "Maitreya
talks about reincarnation, and he presents it in many places in
THOTH, as it is the truth." What evidence does he present to
lead us to believe in reincarnation?
For instance, everyone said, "Elijah the Prophet had
to come." Elijah the Prophet had to come, the forerunner, for Christ
to follow. We then see John the Baptist comes and the disciples ask
Christ, "Who is John the Baptist?" Christ answered, "He is Elijah."
We know that John the Baptist was born from
Elizabeth, a woman. At the same time, Christ is saying he is the
Prophet Elijah. How is this possible? The only thing possible is
Elijah came back as John the Baptist. He was reincarnated. He came
back as a Soul to the body that Elizabeth was carrying, and he
became John the Baptist who was the same Prophet everyone expected
to come. So you see, that's evidence there.
Then we also have our own experiences about our
lives. We go to a place, and we look at it and it suddenly looks so
familiar. We have been there. We have never been there before in
this lifetime but we look at it, "It looks so familiar, I've been
here before. I know I've been here before. I am sure."
Some people call it deja vu, or a remembrance. It
affects you in such a way that you don't have any explanation in
this lifetime. You know you have been here, but you have never been
here before, in this life. Again, reincarnation is the best way to
explain it.
Then we have people who have been put under
hypnosis. They get hypnotized, and they have never been in Germany
but they start speaking German fluently. Or they remember their past
lives, that in such and such a city this thing happened to them. For
instance, their house was burned, and they were caught in the fire.
They go and look at the newspaper for the same day and the same
year, and "Yes, that thing really happened in that city." This
person never was in that city, never was familiar with this
accident. But it has been proven that it happened in a previous
lifetime.
Many people try to explain it in many other
different ways, by trying to put it in a very complicated way, and
somehow explain, "No, no, it's not reincarnation." But after you see
all this evidence gathered together, eventually you come to the
conclusion that reincarnation makes sense.
Another thing is, many believe that "God creates me
and gives me only one lifetime. He tells me I have to be good, and
reach Pure Consciousness (Him). If I don't make it, that's it, I
will be punished, or go to hell," etc.
That's a very unjust God who gives me one lifetime
and puts me in a very bad situation somewhere in a very poor area in
the world where I have no opportunity to even learn how to read or
write. I've never heard about religion, or meditation, or
reincarnation, etc, and then He expects me to reach Pure
Consciousness. That's a pretty unjust God.
But what if He gives me a chance life after life,
after life, after life, and eventually brings me to the situation
where I have the opportunity to learn about God and Pure
Consciousness, then I don't take advantage of these situations that
He provides for me? If He says, I've given you all these
opportunities and you're not taking advantage of them, I have to
replace you with someone else who might take advantage of them, then
He's just, isn't He? He gave you many, many opportunities.
So again, reincarnation shows the justice of God.
Otherwise how can we feel He is just? For instance, they say,
"Christ died for us to go to heaven." What did the people do before
Christ came? If they just had one lifetime, and they never were here
when Christ came and died for us, are they all going to go to hell?
But if they were reincarnated, came and learned that
Christ came and brought The Grace to them, and now they are not
going to listen, again God says, "I gave you opportunities in many
lifetimes, you are not listening," again He is just. You're just not
listening to Him. "I'm putting you in this situation again, and
again, and again, and you're not taking advantage of this situation.
So, I have to just replace you with another consciousness who might
progress."
Therefore, with all this evidence, if we have a very
discerning mind, and we go, study, and meditate, we will eventually
come to this conclusion, "Yes, this makes sense. The only way,
really, this universe can be explained is through reincarnation and
the Law of Karma and Samskaras. Otherwise, we cannot explain these
situations."
That is why a lot of preachers can have trouble
explaining these concepts. They cannot explain them in a very
satisfactory way in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic (although Sufi's do
believe in reincarnation)-Baha'i religions (because these are four
religions which do not believe in reincarnation). Really if you ask
any of these religions to explain the justice of God about these
matters of injustice of the world, they say, "That is the way it
is."
How can they explain it? Is there any explanation in
these religions (or for whoever does not believe in reincarnation)
for why there is so much injustice in the world? Is there? Has
anyone heard anything, or can explain to us why, if you put
reincarnation out of the picture? Can you explain this?
But if we look at reincarnation and karma, then we
can explain that because of the previous deeds, some situation is
created for the person, etc. For instance, if someone killed
someone, do we expect God to give him a good life next lifetime?
We're not saying, "Everything is reincarnation, we have no choice
and that's it. We're predestined and that's all there is, if we are
put into a bad situation we can't go out of it." We're not saying
that.
God also gave us intelligence, meditation, and
understanding so we can get ourselves out of these situations. When
we learn our lessons, the Samskaras are forgiven and we are free. If
we believe in reincarnation and the Law of Karma, then life and many
situations can be explained much easier. Can't it? It can be
explained much, much easier.
So you don't have to believe anything, you have to
discern, to question, to find the truth and to come to that
conclusion, "Yes, what he says makes sense."
Question: Do you believe like the Hindus that we
evolve from animals?
Maitreya: We believe in evolution.
Question: I understand that the Hindus believe
in reincarnation of the animals, like cows.
Maitreya : Well, we're not preaching Hinduism, so
it is not completely what the Hindus believe, but we believe in
evolution. In the process of evolution, the whole universe evolved
from Spirit to matter, from matter to plants, to animals, to higher
animals and eventually to human.
So it goes from Spirit, to become crudified to
matter, and from matter to be loosed back to Spirit. So it's a kind
of circle.
Also, we don't explain evolution as the evolutionary
process in the Darwin theory. We believe it's not by chance. We
believe there is Logic behind it. The Logic of God made the whole
thing work. So what we are teaching here is neither Hinduism nor
pure evolution. It is, you can say, evolution with the Logic of God.
Actually it is less possible that everything
happened by chance. If you statistically calculate to see how
evolution happened by chance and came to the human, that is less
logically possible to happen than if you believe there is an
Intelligence behind it. So statistically it is almost impossible
that it happened by chance.
But if you say, "It is evolution, but a Logic behind
it guided it to this point," that is the best explanation of both
worlds.
Furthermore, at the time of creation, many Souls
were already in a very high level of consciousness. They did not
need to go through the evolutionary process. These are the high
Souls who first became humans, spiritual teachers, etc. This part of
our teaching can be seen as similar to the creationist theory, in
that many Souls just assumed a higher level in the creations.
Many others, however, needed to go through the
evolutionary process to reach higher levels. In a sense, our
teaching combines the evolutionary theory (with the Logic of God
behind it), and the theory of creation together. It has the best of
both worlds. Those who reach Pure Consciousness or higher
consciousness, will be in the highest levels in the next creations!
The point is, you don't have to believe anything.
Really the highest spiritual people are those who study, learn,
research and come to the conclusion that, "Yes, what he says is true
and makes sense, and that is the only way this thing could have
happened in the universe."
Therefore, it's not a matter of, "If you believe in
reincarnation you can stay in the Mission, or if you don't
believe in reincarnation you can't." If you can explain the universe
in a better way without reincarnation, then we might sit and discuss
it to see if you have a better theory than the theory of
reincarnation. Actually, it is really a theory. It is a theory, so
it is not really a law.
For me it is a Law because it's no longer just a
theory. If you have an experience in your meditation, if you
remember some of your previous lifetimes, then especially it is no
longer a theory. When you realize it yourself, then it is a Law for
you.
Question: In the beginning, when the first unit
consciousnesses came into being and were created, did all of the
unit consciousnesses come into being at one time, or are new unit
consciousnesses being created every day? I'm asking this because
there seem to be some Souls who are more evolved than others. You
see some human beings just seem to be -- I don't mean to judge them
but I'm trying to understand something here -- not as evolved.
Maitreya: Your question is, were all the unit
consciousnesses created at the same time, or is there a hierarchy?
Question: Yes, are there new ones being born,
being created even now?
Maitreya: I understand your question. There is a
hierarchy. In our teaching also in the triangle of the Kingdom Of
Heaven In Heaven [the two large triangles in the center of The
Greatest Sign], we can see the triangle upward is the Hierarchy
of the beings in the universe. There is God in the center. There are
some beings at the very top of the hierarchy, who have reached Pure
Consciousness, they have reached God. Some consciousnesses are so
low, they are stones, animals, and all the lower levels of the
consciousness.
So there is a hierarchy in the universe. Actually
there are kind of periods of reaching Pure Consciousness in the
universe. In one period, for example, a group of people will reach
Pure Consciousness, and then lower consciousnesses will come up and
eventually reach Pure Consciousness. Then again lower
consciousnesses will come up and reach Pure Consciousness. That is
why there are people in many different levels of consciousness.
Actually, if you look at the chakras, chakras have
different propensities and tendencies. Each person manifests the
tendencies according to what chakra he is in.
Question: And how evolved their Soul is?
Maitreya: That's right. As your Soul evolves,
higher thoughts come to you.
A person in his lower nature is just not interested
in anything but his physiological and safety needs. The only thing
important for him is, "When is my next food coming? How can I get a
better place to live?" That is all he can think about. He has no
consciousness of God.
Another person is just interested in the opposite
sex. He doesn't want anything else. That is where he is. Some other
people are into power trips. They want to control other people. They
are in their third chakras. The corrupt politicians usually are in
their third chakras, they want power. They want to control other
beings.
Some people have unconditional love, and they are in
the fourth chakra. Some people have compassion and a discriminative
mind. They are in the fifth chakra. Some people are completely one
with God. They are in the sixth chakra. And some people are in Pure
Consciousness.
Even in each chakra there are hierarchies. No two
persons in the same chakra are the same. They are in different
levels in the same chakra. Also, according to how the environment is
affecting you, you can leave one level and enter another one. So a
person can manifest different tendencies in different situations. As
God is infinite, so are the levels of consciousness. Each chakra can
be roughly categorized into tendencies. Each chakra even overlaps
with its previous and next chakra.
However, the answer is, Yes, there is a hierarchy of
beings in the universe. But God can do whatever He wants to do.
Question: What would be the best thing to say to
someone who argues against the Mission when we try to explain
what the Mission is?
Maitreya: Don't argue [all laughing]. If someone
says that it is really not a Mission, it is a cult, or is not
really the truth, or argues with you, the only thing to do is tell
them, "All the religions of the world are unified. The way to bring
the Kingdom of Heaven is given. The prophecies are fulfilled. And
everything is accelerated. If you can't see these things, you are
blind."
Just like, they asked of Christ the same thing, "We
want signs from you." He said, "Generations of vipers ask for signs.
Can't you see that when the evening is fair and the sun is red,
you're going to have fair weather?" The signs are there. You look at
the sun, it is red and there are no clouds in the sky. You know the
weather is going to be just fine tonight. It's the same thing.
Look at what is happening to the earth. Look at the
events that are happening. Look at the process we're going through
right now. We need something to help us.
It was prophesied that these things were going to
happen and this teaching was going to come. Look at any great
religion, they have prophesied all these are going to take place
before the end time. Look at Hinduism. They are looking for the
Messiah (Krishna) to come. Look at Buddhism. They are looking for
Buddha to come. Look at Judaism. They're looking for the Messiah to
come. Look at Christianity, they're looking for Christ to come. Look
at Islam. They're looking for Mehdi to come. Look at the Baha'is.
They're looking for Baha'u'llah to come, or the next one after Bab
to come. All the religions have prophesied this.
What is going to come? The religions of the world
will be unified. The Kingdom of Heaven, God, is going to come. There
are going to be upheavals on earth before this happens. And there
will be a lot of prophecies which are going to be fulfilled.
You see the signs. You see the handwriting on the
wall. Just look at the signs. I don't have to argue with you. All
the signs are right in front of you. Look at them, understand them,
and come to a conclusion.
The only thing I can do is give you the Message. I
don't want to argue with you. This is the Message. This is the way
all the prophecies are fulfilled. This is the way the earth is right
now. We need all the help we can have, to get out of this mess we
have made.
If you show a better way, fine, I'll follow that. If
I personally find a better way, I'm the first person who is going to
follow that.
But I haven't found another way. I haven't found any
teaching, or any revelation, that so clearly explains the unity of
all the religions together. Some people generally say, "All
religions are basically the same." They are not.
Christianity is not the same as Judaism. Judaism is
not the same as the Baha'i Faith. The Baha'i Faith is not the same
as Islam. Islam is not the same as Hinduism. There is a very
different message given to humanity through each of them.
The Greatest Sign and our teaching explains how
God decided to send these different religions as a part of the
greater truth to humanity, one by one. That's why you are separated
because each of them has a different message, and they each had to
be here so far because they had to keep that message alive.
Now each of them are a part of the greater truth.
Just think, which religion on earth is going to unify humanity?
Hinduism? Do you think everyone is going to become a Hindu, or a
Jew, or a Christian, or a Moslem, or a Baha'i? But if each of them
find themselves as a part of the greater truth, "I'm going to be
more willing to join something that doesn't reject me, something
that already says, You're a part of us, come and join us, but expand
yourself a little bit more."
So the only thing is, all of us have to become
proficient in the
Mission. We have to realize The Greatest Sign. We have
to think about It. We have to meditate about It, understand It, read
about It, look at It, read the Satsangs, and really become
proficient in such a way that we can represent the Mission.
You each can become a Maitreya. You each can
become the same energy that I am. Then we're going to have [counting
and all laughing] thirteen
Maitreya's. I'm not going to be the only one.
I'm going to be the first flame. Then there are
going to be thirteen flames. If every one of us lights another
thirteen flames, we're going to be one hundred and sixty nine
flames. On and on, until one hundred forty-four thousand flames are
lit. We're going to multiply more and more.
So it is really the responsibility of each of you to
become so proficient that you can answer their questions in the
deepest level possible. But if you don't know anything about the
Mission, the only thing you can tell them is, the prophecies are
fulfilled, the religions are unified, the way for the Kingdom to
come has been given, and look at the world. These are the four
signs. What else do you need?
Question: So you would be able to believe all
the religions and inter-relationships, and all the faiths, the
separate doctrines of each faith?
Maitreya: Know the truth of each religion, not
their dogma. We believe the truth behind each religion. The truth
behind Judaism is to bring the
Communities of Light, to create communities which are the
Children of God. That is the message of the Old Testament.
God wanted some tribes, some communities, who would accept Him as
their God. That is the message of the Old Testament.
Hinduism is a Mystical Path, and also there are
other Mystical Paths which fall in the first seal. It is the ability
to connect with God in an individual relationship. They are the
religions of connecting yourself with God, realizing that He is with
you all the time. He is the doer. You are a channel for Him. You
become open to His Energy. Let your ego go and let Him come in.
Christianity is sacrifice, not being self-centered.
What did Christ do? He went all the way to the cross for his ideal.
He didn't hesitate a bit. Well, he did a bit in the garden of
Gethsemane. He said, "Can you take this cup from me?" And he
realized right away that he was not submissive to the Will of God.
Then he said, "Your Will be done, not mine." That's why the next
time he came, he brought submission, because he learned his lesson
pretty good in that lifetime.
So we don't just accept every religion and say,
"Yeah, come all religions and bring your dogma to us, we accept
them." Then it's going to be a mess. We're going to have the same
problem that the many branches of every religion have.
But if we accept the truth behind every religion,
every message that God sent to humanity, then we can also tell them,
"Look, this is the message of that religion. You don't need to be
fragmented by how to baptize. Put the water over the head, or from
the back, or on this side, or be submerged in it. These are all
trivialities."
The message is sacrifice. The message is not being
self-centered. We accept the truth of each religion.
You don't believe me? Go and read the New
Testament. See what Christ did. He went all the way to the
cross. What for? For his ideal. He sacrificed himself, completely.
That is his message.
So that is the message that comes through, and that
is the only way you can create the Communities of Light. If
everyone is self-centered in the
Communities of Light, they are never going to become Communities of Light. Everyone will say, "Me, me, me, what is in
it for me?" That attitude has to go.
It's not, "What is in this for me?" It's, "Where do
I fall in the scheme of things? Where is my energy in this
collective energy?" When you find your place then you receive a
hundred-fold of your expectation. You receive everything you need.
You receive all your physiological and safety needs. You receive
your best friend in the world. You receive support from the
community. You receive rest, health, good food, nice air, whatever
you need. You receive a hundred-fold of it. Best of all you receive
God.
But from the very beginning if you walk into the
community with the attitude of, "What is in it for me here?" you
will find yourself out of the house, out of The Grace.
So it is just that attitude. Of course, that's
human. The human has a very calculative mind. We have to be(come)
gods. We have to be(come) the Children of Light. We are no longer
human.
You decided to be(come) a Child of God, a Child of
Light, so you have to forget about being human any longer. Of
course, as the communities expand and more people learn about them,
it will become easier and easier to assimilate more people into
them.
It's very hard in the beginning to assimilate those
first few ones. It is like that magnet which was used in one of the
lectures today. The more magnets that come together, the more
strength the united magnet has. It becomes an even greater magnet, a
greater attraction. After awhile, no matter where you are, you've
got to come in. You have no choice!
Question : Did Esa ever have a wife or children?
Maitreya: Yes. He had two wives, Martha and
Mary. If you study the New Testament, anytime when he came
back, Mary and Martha went to see him. Of course, there was a great
effort by the disciples to cover this up, just like there was a
great effort to cover up his life from twelve years to thirty years.
As a child he was in the temple talking with these
Rabbis, and then you don't hear anything about what happened to him
after that. Then suddenly he was an adult and began his mission. He
started traveling around and preaching the gospel. What happened in
those eighteen years?
As I said, the gospel was written one hundred and
seventy years after Christ. So in that one hundred and seventy years
a lot of things were missing from the truth. It has been said that
he traveled to other lands. He went to Persia. He went to India. He
went to Tibet, and came back to Pakistan, etc. So he was with many
mystics in different lands.
Even the people who came to see him, the three wise
men, already were the mystics. Maybe they talked with his parents
and said, "After he becomes twelve years old, we're going to come
back and take him with us, because we know he is special and has a
unique destiny. That's why we followed the star and we found him. So
he is a Great Soul," or "He is the Messiah." They were probably
astrologers because they were following the stars. "We know he is a
Great Soul and we want to take him to be trained."
He also went to Egypt. We know that. Mary took him
to Egypt. In Egypt there were also many mystical schools. So he was
very familiar with the Mystical Teachings of the many lands. That's
why if you compare the New Testament with the
Bhagavad-Gita, you feel it's almost taken word by word from
the Bhagavad-Gita.
"No one goes to the Father but through me. I am the
light of the world." All these things are exactly like Krishna
talking with Arjuna, "I am the light of the world. You go to the
truth through Krishna only by concentrating on Krishna all the
time," and on and on. The similarities are amazingly striking. Also
there is a seminary in India where they have some writings of Esa.
They have preserved it.
So all these things show that he was very familiar
with the Mystical Teachings of the Far East. And also, yes, he had
two wives. He was a Jew and Jews could have more than one wife - at
least they used to. They don't do that anymore [all laughing].
Question: Can a Catholic, Protestant or
Jehovah's Witness still practice their religion if they join the
Mission?
Maitreya: Can you put new wine in the old skin?
You can't do that. What happens to the old skin? It's going to
burst, and it won't work.
This is a new wine. It needs a new skin. After you
realize that it's a new wine, you just accept it as something new
and complete in itself.
As I said, you can't continue your old beliefs if
you expand yourself because the whole is greater than the parts. You
cannot put a large object into something which is much smaller than
that object.
So I guess the answer is very obvious. You cannot
put the new wine in the old skin.
Question: I am trying to understand how and why
each Feast of Tabernacles will be different. Or, is it that I have
changed? How can I grow enough to be in tune with you all for the
next Feast?
Maitreya: That's a good one. Well, of course,
after coming to the first Feast, you are going to be different. Just
being here and being radiated with God's Grace brings change to
every one of us.
It stirs our Spirit to higher and greater things.
It's a Call for all of us, and He Calls us. He tells us that is the
way He wants us to go and do His Will.
It depends on how much you resist His Will. If you
do His Will and you come to this conclusion, "Yes, I want to do Your
Will, and I want to be with You and do whatever You want me to do,"
more and more His Energy is going to envelop you, and you will
become much better. The next Feast is going to be greater.
Then you come here and you say, "Oh yeah, that's
great, I feel good about this. I love it." But if you don't follow
His Will, and you keep doing the old things that you were doing,
probably you will have a hard time to come back. You see, whenever
you come here, after you leave, you have to realize that a lot of
things are going to happen, or change in your life. You're not the
same person because when you come to be in the radiation of God,
things start changing in your life. You have been lifted and opened
to progress forward. You are in a higher level than before. So the
old will be taken away and the new will replace it.
It is just like Jonathan Livingston Seagull. What
happened to him? He was with the seagulls. He realized that he was a
little higher than the other seagulls. He said, "No, I don't want to
spend my time just fighting for fish and/or trivialities like the
rest of the seagulls. Is that it? Is that what life is all about?
He decided to progress to a greater level. That is
why he was rejected by the old. However, he reached a greater Joy
later on.
The reason the Feast is going to be a little
different than the previous year is because you either did not grow
and will have a hard time, or you have grown and you love it more.
Question: You said that when we meditate we know
ourselves. I don't know really how when we meditate we know
ourselves better. Can you share something about this?
Maitreya: The Self is within us. Our senses are
like wild horses. The Soul and body have been depicted as a chariot
and charioteer. The body is the chariot, the Self is the charioteer,
and the senses are the five horses carrying the chariot to different
places.
As long as the senses are wild, and they are taking
us in different directions, we are not in control. The horses are in
control. The senses are in control. The senses are the reality of
our life. That is when our senses pull us toward the external world.
That's when we fall into Maya, because Maya causes the Soul to be
bound by the external world and tama guna. That's why we say in our
prayer to the Father that through His Grace, "We overcome the power
of the tama guna."
What is the power of the tama guna? It's really
those principalities that Christ talked about. We work with the
principalities. Tama guna is really a principality with many heads.
These principalities have created bondage for us.
Now what is the most powerful sense in our body that
makes us to go toward the world? Our eyes. Our eyes see it, our
hearts desire it. Now we close them. We're closing a very powerful
sense. So we're not letting that energy from our eyes go out.
Actually, there is an energy that goes out from the
eyes. When you close your eyes, that energy stops going out, it goes
inward. You close your senses. By closing your eye sense, you also
become more familiar with the other senses in your body.
If you also watch your diet, and eat the foods that
do not stir the senses too much, like meat, garlic, onion, coke,
coffee, tea -- tea is OK [all laughing]. I drink tea once in awhile
that's why I said that. But that doesn't mean if I drink it you can
drink it too [all laughing].
You have to be able to bring the energy to higher
chakras. If you can do that, you can eat almost anything. But the
problem is it's not easy work. That's why if you don't have the
ability to do that, it affects you, and it brings the energy lower,
and on, and on.
So you keep yourself from sensations that arouse
your senses, because senses are very powerful things. Actually, some
of the yogis, the people who try to overcome their senses, say, "If
you can tame the senses, then you can realize the Self."
Now when your senses are wild and you have no
control over them, what happens to the chariot? You have no control
over the chariot. It goes wherever the horses want. If you want it
to go north, they may go south.
We don't say, "Kill the horses." If you kill the
horses you won't have any senses. You are dead. We say, "Tame the
horses." Now if you have five tame horses, what do you have? A nice
chariot that you can take anywhere you want. You have a good chariot
to take you from one place to another, because you have control over
the horses. So you have control over your senses.
That comes only by knowing Self. By quieting the
senses you start realizing your Self. You start shedding light into
your Soul. By putting light into your Soul, any darkness there
starts to be dissolved.
As I said, there are principalities in us. People
say, "Oh, someone is possessed." They're not kidding. You can be
possessed. Possessed by what? Possessed by those principalities.
When you put light into that darkness, those creatures start to be
dissolved.
Those creatures are really not creatures, they can't
stand the light. They just like the darkness. As long as there is no
light, everything is dark. The moment you flip the switch and the
light comes on, the darkness can't say, "Oh, I'm going to stay. I'm
not going to go." That's the end of the darkness. The darkness has
to go.
That's what happens within you too. The darkness
starts getting dissolved. But you have to keep the light on. You
can't just meditate ten minutes today, and for one week don't
meditate, then after two weeks say, "I'll meditate another half an
hour," then not meditate, and one month later, "I'd better get to
the meditation for awhile," and do it for a couple of days, etc.
You have to keep the light going on. Eventually,
there are no creatures left. They die. As I said, they cannot live
in the light. So in that way you start seeing your Self more and
more in the light.
Another way also to know your Self is to have a
discerning mind, to see your problems, to look at your problems and
the mistakes you make. If you make a mistake, look at it and say,
"Yes, I made this mistake."
There are patterns in your life. You can look at the
patterns of your life. "I'm getting to this pattern." For example,
"I get to this relationship, this relationship ends in bitterness.
Right away, or two months later, I enter into another relationship.
The same thing happens, on, and on," or whatever pattern is there in
your life that goes on and on, and you make the same mistake over
and over.
If you look at it then you see, "Oh yeah, there is a
pattern happening in my life. I have to break that pattern, that
habit." Breaking patterns and habits is not easy. But if you
meditate and keep yourself in the light, one day you wake up and you
don't even want to have that habit any longer. It just falls away
from you. When it falls away, when your pattern falls, you are
freer. One day you wake up and you are free from all those creatures
that were within you and guiding your life into disaster after
disaster.
Then you start talking about higher things, higher
thoughts. You start talking about God and His Beauty, His Qualities.
As you start talking about Him, you know Him better every day. As
you know Him better, you know your Self better.
Most of the time when you give Satsang, you don't
give it for other people, you give it for your Self. You hear
yourself.
Also there is more than just meditating. For
example, you may say, "I want to receive a doctorate in chemistry."
If you sit out of the classes without any action you will never
receive the degree. You have to get involved. You have to go to
elementary school, go to high school, go to college, study, etc.
With doing, you learn.
That's why meditation alone will not enlighten you.
That is why the
Mission
is more than just meditating. It is a whole package which you should take
in, in whole. The package together, meditation, to have a discerning
mind, to do things for God, knowing His Will, accepting His Vision,
and getting involved, little by little opens you more and more to
the truth. But if you just sit in the room and say, "Oh, I want to
become enlightened, I want to know God, I will just meditate," that
alone will not work.
So it's more than just meditation.
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