Maitreya, Conversations with

10-30-04

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Maitreya:  Welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s Conversations Room.  As usual, we will be with you for one hour, or an hour and a half, it depends on how many questions there will be, and how many have gone to the website, studied our teachings, and now are here to discuss them with us.  As usual the topic will be the Mission of Maitreya and our teachings. 

The teachings are in the website.  It is a Revelation that reveals to humanity that all the religions of the world have come from the same Source.  Each major religion brought by the Major Manifestations have a specific Message for humanity, and when you put all of them together you will see the whole picture.

The coming of this Revelation has been prophesied in every religion.  All humanity is waiting for a Revelation that explains what they did not know before.

Indeed we teach here what humans have never known.  It is absolutely a Revelation that is new and has been prophesied to come.  It has been hidden even from the Great Manifestations and Prophets.  It was revealed to a few Prophets like Daniel and Ezekiel but they were instructed not to reveal it to anyone.

Now humanity has the opportunity to know the Plan of God to this point and how all the revelations have come from the same Source, and now they have been called to an action:  The creation of the Communities of Light, to understand the Eternal Divine Path and follow it.

The Eternal Divine Path is the Revelation that reveals what is the meaning of each of these religions, where they fall, how they relate to each other, and how they manifest the Kingdom of God on earth.  That is the way of the salvation and healing of this earth that it needs so badly.

It is important, it is necessary, it is a Call to humanity to see this Vision, to see this Revelation, to see this Truth, and realize what is the Will of God.  Any other reasons, any other Vision, any other understanding, is not the whole picture.  If you do not have the whole picture, you will not have all the facts and information, and your conclusion will be wrong.

That is exactly what this Mission and Revelation gives you.  It gives you the whole picture.  It makes you realize that you can make an educated decision based on the whole truth and the whole facts that have been revealed to you, through God, and through the Manifestations that came as the Prophets of God.

The Prophets of God who have revealed the seven parts of the Revelation of the Eternal Divine Path can be called the Major Manifestations, the Major Prophets, and the Messiahs.  No matter what you call them, they have been prophesied to come.  It had been foretold that these Major Prophets would manifest.

God is a Spirit.  God cannot come and bring a Revelation to humanity because a Manifestation is necessary to connect the Message of God to man.  Such Manifestations as Prophets have been in the history of humanity for at least the last 6,000 years.  We can see the culmination of these revelations now has come to man.  Now humanity can see this Vision clearly and understand that they have to shatter any narrowness of the mind; they have to come together and create communities.

The human life should be much more relaxed.  It should be much more comfortable, or not as stressful as we have created on earth right now.  A lot of people’s lives are stressful because they have to work so hard.  Every individual has to “make it.”

In the communities, that stressfulness should be taken away.  Indeed stress is what Christ called, “You gain the world but lose your Soul.”

The humans need to have more time to meditate.  They need more connection with other humans in a deeper level as coworkers, as people who struggle together toward God, in an environment that they can thrive and understand God in a deeper level, understand themselves, and realize that they are a part of God.

With the world we have created, people do not have the time or the understanding that those are the most important things.  Other things have become more important, and that is being attached to the external world.  Of course, the external world is a temporary state.  It is not the permanent state of being of the universe.  Being attached to anything temporary will not result in that ultimate Happiness, Oneness, and Joy.

By realizing this is temporary we can create an environment that we can realize the permanence, the Spirit, and the realization that we are One with God.   That is the goal of this Mission, to create Communities of Light that people can meditate and awaken their spiritual forces.  It is a more relaxing and more humane environment for the human psyche.  They can progress physically, mentally, and spiritually instead of an environment that kills the Soul and creates a situation that they do not have time to realize themselves in a greater degree.

That is what this Realization or this Revelation brings to humanity.  It is much more than that.  It takes, on the average, seven years of study and involvement with the Mission for a person to really deeply understand what the teachings are.  Some people understand it faster.  Some people take longer.

The Revelation is amazing, and the teaching is perfect.  It brings great truth to anyone on earth.  No matter what is your religion, you will understand your religion in a much deeper level.

This room is for everyone to go to our website and bring their questions here.  It is a discussion room mostly for you to become more familiar with the teachings.  With discussing them here, you understand them in a deeper level.

I have been giving lectures and revealing this Revelation for the last twenty-four or twenty-five years.  There is a lot of material in the website that can help you.  If you do not have any questions, that is OK.  At the same time the reason for this room is to bring your questions here in a higher level related to the Mission so we can understand this teaching in a deeper level.

Not only does this teaching unify all the religions of the world, it shows how the cyclical movements of the society have been working in history.  It shows historically how these cyclical movements have come to this point and now we can create an environment that will bring leaders into existence that know these cyclical movements and can help humanity to smooth these cycles and create a greater degree of standard of living for everyone. 

Therefore not only will their physiological and safety needs be taken care of but we will create an environment that they also can progress physically, mentally, and spiritually.  And it explains what each of these revelations meant, and that when you put them together you receive the whole picture.

It is a perfect Revelation.  It is the ultimate Revelation.  No one before this Revelation could claim that he was the last Prophet or the Revealer of the last Revelation of God.  That is because no matter what the Prophet said or who he was, he did not have the Seventh Revelation or the Seventh Seal.

All the religions of the world have to realize and recognize that their religion is a part of a greater truth, that their revealer is a Great Revealer, and it is a Major Manifestation.  They are respected, they are loved, they are adored, and they are put in a very high level of God’s Messengers, but at the same time they had only one seventh of the truth.  They can understand in a greater degree their teachings, their revelations, their religions, if they understand ours.  That is what has been prophesied to come. 

Also religions have to forego their dogmas.  When the dogmas are out and the plain truth of every religion is revealed, then we can free ourselves from the narrowness of the mind and the separative ideas that exist on earth at this time.  Humanity is going toward a great destruction if they do not understand this simple truth that has been revealed to them. 

It is paramount for each of us to recognize the urgency of this Revelation and Message.  And of course be wise as serpents, as Christ said, “Be in the world but not of it.”  Be wise in the world so you can spread this Message in a way that it is not going to be harmful to you as an individual if you are in an environment that they cannot understand the depth and beauty of this teaching and their dogmas might create an environment that is not safe for you.

God has created an environment here that the freedom of expression and religion has been provided for humanity, and this Revelation comes where these ideas are respected.  Therefore we can preach the Revelation, the last Revelation of God, without other Prophets being persecuted, stoned, or shot at.  God has provided an environment for this Revelation that it can be preached to the world without any side effects that other Prophets had to go through.

Indeed the Internet itself is created by God to bring a safe environment for the preaching of this Revelation.  God is very protective of this Revelation, because all the other revelations before it have been changed and distorted.  Many people who did not know the whole Vision, tried to explain it.  They created branches and different religions out of each religion.

If there is a dispute about the meaning of the Revelation, go back to the Eternal Divine Path.  The Eternal Divine Path is a very simple Path.  It is based on the Seven Seals, or seven steps.  The first step is awakening of our spiritual forces, meditation, concentration, contemplation, and anything that helps you to “Know thyself,” which is the First Seal in the Eternal Divine Path.  That includes all the Mystical Teachings like:  Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabbala, and all the teachings that teach, “Know thyself,” “Awaken your spiritual forces,” “Be still and know that I am God.” 

The second step is the creation of the Communities of Light, which is the Old Testament.  If you read the Old Testament, God is trying to choose a people, Hebrews.  Hebrews means the Children of Light.  He was trying to find the Children of Light.

The Children of Light will create the communities, which were the tribes.  They will bring God as their King, and His Laws as the Laws of their communities.  They will create the Communities of Light.  That is the message of the Old Testament.  “Hebrew” at this time does not mean a specific race.  It means the chosen person who follows the Eternal Divine Path.  That person can become, or be called, a Hebrew, a Child of Light.  That means anyone on earth who understands this teaching, sees the Vision, and tries to create the Communities of Light and sacrifices for it.

The next step is sacrifice.  That was brought by the New Testament.  Christ brought the message that without sacrifice, no Communities Of Light will be created.  That does not mean that you sacrifice and many people take from the few who sacrifice, but to teach children from the very childhood that sharing is the Essence of life, they should share with one another, and they should learn how to sacrifice of themselves for the good of the community and the well being of humanity.

That is the message of the New Testament.  Christ sacrificed all for his ideal, and he brought the sharpest teaching for humanity.  Also he released The Grace that was taken at the time of the fall of man.  Those who followed Christ were saved by Grace.  But as the Koran says, that will only last to the end of this era.

With this Revelation and the coming of this truth, The Grace has now been released to the whole of humanity.  That is why we are seeing there is equity and equality coming to man more and more.  There is not going to be too much of a difference in their standard of living.  It has to be more equal, and it will be. 

That is the revelation that the Koran says, “Yes, the followers of Esa, or Christ, will be preferred till the end time.”  This is the end time.  Now everyone should realize that Christ indeed released The Grace, and they also should seek The Grace of God.  As the Christians have been saved by Grace, so the whole of humanity has to understand the importance of Grace in the life of the human so it is not all Law but also Grace is important.

Grace without the Law does not make sense because Grace is Law.  When you have The Grace, you follow the Law.  You do not break the Laws of God.  They absolutely are one.  Grace and Law is one.  Without The Grace, it is impossible to follow the Law.  Following the Law without Grace will become a burden.  It does not become the Joy of seeing the depths of the Law itself.  

You cannot say that Christ came, destroyed the Law, and we are saved by Grace, because the moment you are saved by Grace, you will follow the Law.  They go hand in hand. 

Christ was in Grace.  That is why he was able to follow the Law to the point that he told people how they should behave if the have the Law:  “If your hand defiles you, cut it off and throw it away.”  That means if you have The Grace you would not break the Ten Commandments and/or Fifteen Commandments or the Laws of God because they will be in your heart.  They go together.

With sacrifice you can create the Communities of Light.  But you might be attached to the result of your actions.  You say, “I am doing so much and nothing is happening.”  You become depressed. 

Or you do something and things start happening.  You say, “I am the doer.  Look at me I am such a wonderful being.”  You become a big ego and you fall. 

Ego is the problem in this manifested world.  Ego is like an umbrella that we have on the top of our heads and we are cutting off The Grace.  When we cut out The Grace we do not follow the Law, we fall, and we do not feel God.  We feel that He is not there, He is not connected to us and we are not connected to Him.  We become unhappy and we do not even feel that there is a God.  That is what most of humanity feels, that God does not exist.

Actually some people say that God is dead already.  But with this Revelation and the coming of the truth, and the last Revelation of God we say, “No.  He is still there.  He exists.  He still is in control.  He says what He has done, what He will do, and He has done them all to this point.” 

He said that He would send a Revelation at the end time that would clarify everything.  He has.  Therefore God indeed exists.  He is well, and He is with us all the time.  There is no time that God is not with us.  With this understanding humanity realizes that there is a God.  He has a Will for us.  All of us have come from Him or Her or It, or whatever you want to call It.  It really does not have any name because He is not a manifestation.  He is in control. 

Indeed if you have a Vision of Him, He knows everything at the same time.  There is nothing that is unknown by God.

We have to recognize this and realize that this is the Will of God, to create the Communities of Light, to meditate, to awaken our spiritual forces, to know ourselves, to realize our ego and how our ego cuts The Grace out and how we do not feel God because we are cut off from The Grace.  Therefore we start going deeper, understanding, and following the Law, not because it has been commanded to follow the Law, but because of The Grace you do not even want to break the Law.  That is because you know that the moment you break the Law, The Grace will be taken away and The Grace is the only thing you want.

The Grace is the time that you feel the connection to the Spirit.  Anything that disconnects you from the Spirit will be shunned and discarded.  You will strive to become Godly, pure, and purity, and rid yourself of your ego.

Ego becomes attached.  That is one of the characteristics of the ego.  Ego becomes attached to life, becomes attached to family, and becomes attached to nations and languages.  Anything that we are attached to is temporary.  The only permanent thing is God, and God does not have any color, does not have any manifestation, He is not a nation or language, or any tangible thing.  You just have to shatter any narrowness of the mind or attachment that keeps you from God.

It does not mean to drop your family.  No, love them with Godly Love with no attachments.  Look at them as one manifestation of God that He has provided them for you to be so close, helpful, and one.  Help them in any way you can.  They also can progress physically, mentally, and spiritually.  But at the same time know that when it comes for the time to go back to God, no one is going to be around but you and God.  Therefore be attached to something that is permanent. 

At that moment you are not going to take your wealth; you are not going to take your family.  You are not going to take your nation, language, and gender.  Anything that you are attached to now, in that moment of leaving your body, none of them are going to be with you.  The only thing left will be your Soul.  That is what you have to work on, your spirit, your Oneness with God, The Grace.  At that moment when it comes say, “Yes, here I am, ready to come back to Your Bosom, to Your Spirit, and return to You.”

Therefore you will become an observer, a witness entity of life.  You will look at life like the river underneath the bridge.  The river goes but you are steady and looking at it as something that is happening there.  Any attachments should be completely shattered and taken care of.

The Fourth Revelation came to humanity as the revelation in the Koran.  Islam means to be surrendered and submitted to God.  Surrendering means that you do the action, and you surrender the result to God.  Any attachment you have you will overcome and you free yourself to God, to permanency.  Any temporary things are never going to give you the permanent happiness:  your family, your nations, your language, anything that is not permanent, is temporary.  As you grow, those temporary attachments are going to fall off.

The sooner you rid yourself of your attachments through the temporary things, the sooner you will realize the permanency, or God.  Of course, you will be free from all the vices of this life and this manifested world.

When you do the action also for the Communities of Light in the Eternal Divine Path, if you become attached to them you either become depressed or you will become elated and egoistical.  We just said the moment you become egoistical, you cut God out and you are not connected.  Therefore you do the action and you surrender the result. 

But greater than surrendering is submission, realizing that God is doing the action through me.  That is why some people are surprised.  Some people come to our room and someone says something that makes sense in the room, and they say, “Thank you, such and such a person.”  That person says, “All thanks go to God.”  It means, “I did not do it.  God did it through me.  God is the One who receives the thanks.  I have no credit for what happens.  I am free from my ego.  I neither become depressed nor too elated.” 

Surrendering and submission is the way to become One with God, and that is the goal to spiritual progress, to become One with God.  The more we let God come through, the more we realize that God is the Doer and we are not, the more we realize that, ”I do not exist but God exists only,” the sooner we become One with God and we can manifest His Spirit in a greater degree.

When the other people also see the Spirit of God coming through us, they will want to be like us because we have the Joy, Calmness, Unity, and Stillness of God’s Spirit with us.  And everyone wants that.

Therefore the Fourth Step or revelation was the Koran and Islam, surrendering and submission.  That means we absolutely let God come through, and we are free from our ego.

Still you might concentrate on a very small part of the world, a part of the earth, a part of the universe and only direct your meditation, your prayer, and your understanding to that small part.  That is why the next step is universalism.

Berserker is asking:

Berserker3:  What god are we talking about?
 

Maitreya:  There is only One God:  Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal (FINE).  He does not have any form.  The moment you give Him a form, the moment you say, “God looks like this,” or, “God looks like that,” you create separation, you create division, you create ego trips, and you create wars, destruction, and misunderstanding.  He is Invisible.  He cannot be seen.  If you can see anything manifested, or any sense can recognize it, it is not the Ultimate State of God.

Berserker, one of the rules in this room is, do not ask any more questions before your first question has been answered.  Therefore, hold your typing until your first question has been answered, and then we will go ahead and answer your other questions.

Let us concentrate on, “Which God we are talking about?”  He is Invisible.  It cannot be seen.  It is impossible to have a shape for Him.  It goes very well with Formless, but It also cannot even be seen.

Nameless, He does not have any manifested name.  Of course all the beautiful names belong to Him, as the Koran says.  You can call Him anything you want but really God is the Permanent and He is not manifestation, therefore, He cannot have any name in manifestation, in the manifested world.

So we can see that God is Nameless and Invisible.  He is also Eternal.  He has been here, He was here, and He will be here forever.  Eternity is something you cannot explain as God cannot be explained.  It can be experienced.

Therefore we are talking about the God called Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.

Now you ask:

Berserker3:  I see, Zeus?  Or, I think I mean Zeus.  Like Jesus?
 

Maitreya:  Well, that is good; you know his name never was Jesus.  As you mentioned, Jesus is a combination of “Jay” (In Sanskrit it means victory), and “Zeus” (Zeus, of course, the god Zeus).  We can see that the name Jesus has come from the Greek language. 

After Christianity came to Europe, later on he was called Jesus.  His name never was Jesus. 

That is interesting that God has already revealed that you are saved only by His Name.  But what is His Name?  That is a mystery that many religions try to say what His Name is.  But in reality his name cannot be pronounced in the external world.

That is why when the followers or disciples of Christ were healing and they were healing many people, a magician came and offered them money and a lot of other things if they could give him The Word that they healed with.  Of course, they did not accept his offer.

If healing was done by the name of Jesus, or the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, why would he offer money to know what The Word was?  It was a Word that they would not pronounce or utter externally. 

The magician, or the person who wanted The Word, could not hear what they said.  Therefore, he offered money to them to receive The Word.  They did not give it to him because he was not ready.  He wanted to use it and misuse it instead of to bring it to Godly manifestation.

We can see indeed that The Word, His Name, cannot be pronounced.  The Word that the disciples used to heal was given to them internally.  Therefore no one knew what they said or used. 

Now a days people heal in the name of Jesus and the name of the Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost.  Christ already said that, “At the end time they are going to come to me and say, ‘I healed in your name,’ and I will say, ‘I know you not,’ because The Word you use is really not Christ, but you heal in the name of Zeus.”

Also Christians are supposed to be saved by his name.  If the name is not Jesus how can they claim to be saved when the name is not even the name that God said they would be saved with?  You are correct; they used “Jay-Zeus” as the name of Christ.

His earthly name was Esa.  Esa is known in the Moslem countries, in India, in the Far East.  He is known as Esa the Messiah. 

His earthly name was Esa but his spiritual name is something that cannot be uttered.  They call him Yahweh.  They call him Y’shua, and all that.  All of them still are the outward pronunciation and uttering of The Word.  The Name of God cannot be uttered.

That is why if the Hebrews tried to utter the name of God, they would be stoned, because the Hebrews knew that the true name of God could not be pronounced.  We are talking about that God, the God that is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.  It is not “Jay-Zeus.”  It is not Jesus.  It is not Allah.  It is not Y’shua.  It is not Brahma.  It is not Krishna.  It is not any name that you can utter in the external world. 

It is something that can be revealed to you through the initiations in the Mission.  Those who receive it will be the soldiers and the workers of God, and they will work very hard to manifest this Revelation.

When you receive it, of course, you will say, “Ah-ha!  It has been there always but I did not know it.”  When you receive it, you will be with God all the time.  If you remember it and the environment lets you meditate, manifest it, and think about it more and more, you will see one day that there is no time that God is not with you.

Therefore we are talking about that God.  We are talking about the only God that there is.  He is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.

Berserker3:  Can we see God?  How do you know He is there?
 

Maitreya:  As we said, He is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal, therefore you cannot see Him.  But you can see His Manifestation.  You can see His Hand in the creation.  You can see how logical and scientific It is. 

You can see how science even is becoming closer and closer in realizing that there is a unified field, or a unified theory.  It is a theory but in reality everything has come from the Unified Source.  That Unified Source in the Mystical Paths, in religions, is called God.

The Essence, the very permanency of the universe, cannot be seen.  That is why scientists have such a hard time to go beyond the manifested world.

The latest thing they have realized is the dark matter.  They know that dark matter exists because the weight of some galaxies is much more than the materials in them.  There is something there that makes them even heavier than the weight of the galaxies or any manifestation.  They call it dark matter.  That is the ether in the universe that cannot be detected with the instruments of science.  We can see there is some unified field or Essence that everything has come from. That is God. 

Furthermore if you understand our teachings, all through our teachings God has promised many things that He will manifest in the world, on the earth, and He has accomplished them.  For example, if you go to a room and there is a glass of water there and you come back a half an hour later and see the water is not there, you assume someone came and drank the water.  That individual exists and you know such a person has been there although you do not see the person there anymore.

If you read our teachings. you will understand that God has revealed that He will manifest.  He promised many things in history, and He accomplished them.  Therefore you have no choice but to say, “God exists.”

God is not recognizable, understandable, by mind or intellect.  God is an experience.  That is why you cannot explain God.  Humanity has been trying to explain God for thousands of years.  They have written probably thousands and thousands of books, just to explain what God is, and they have not succeeded because God cannot be explained.

God is beyond mind.  You have to experience God in Spirit, as Christ said, “You worship God in Spirit,” not in temples and in mountains.  We can see the intellectual will have a hard time trying to explain God, and they will not succeed.  If they meditate, if they close their eyes and they are accepted, they will experience the connection. 

Intellectually, if you read our teachings, if God said He will do these things and He has done them, He exists.  You do not have to see it to believe it but you have to recognize, “Yes indeed, the Spirit does exist.”

I hope that answered your question.  If you have a question, now you can go ahead and type it.  But do not go on and on just typing it over and over.  Let one question be answered before the other question comes up.

If you are an intellectual person and you are trying to explain God, you will not succeed.  But if you close your eyes, meditate and read our teachings, you will see that God exists.  The very existence of this Revelation on earth is a testimony of God’s existence. 

If you understand how God prophesied this would come, how He said the person who will bring this will be from the genealogy of King David, how there are going to be Seven Seals, Seven Revelations and the last Revelation will explain everything, then you have no choice but to say, “Yes, indeed, this is a testimony of the existence of God and therefore this Mission is here to glorify God and teach intellectuals and atheists to realize that God exists.”

They are trying to explain God and they are very clever, with intellectual pride.  Just like saying if God is really powerful, why doesn’t He create a stone that even He cannot lift up?  Those are clever statements or ways that they are trying to discredit God.  If you understand our teachings, you will see that God said He was going to do these things, and He has done them.  Therefore God exists.

Then you have to create faith.  Then you have to see the Hand of God in your life, in history, in creation.  They are all explained in our teachings how even history has been guided and brought to this point by God.  You have no choice at the end but to say, “Yes.  God exists.”

Now if you can see It or not, if you have the eye, you do.  You can see God in your hand, how fantastic this instrument is that the best engineer on earth even has not created something so useful, so flexible, and so wonderful.  You can grab things.  You can pick up.  You can put it down.  You can do a lot of things with your hands.  It is perfect.  Who created it?  Is it by chance?  Impossible!  We can see that it cannot be created by chance.

Know that God and realize He exists.  This Revelation is from Him.  It is the last Revelation explaining everything to humanity.  Then recognize and realize that you have to go back to Him.

There is question by Silver:

Silver2-4: I recently read the story of Baha'u'llah and was so astounded by the terrible suffering that these servants of God experienced, even more than Esa experienced.  Will this happen again?