MAITREYA, Conversations with
06/12/2004
Audio
Maitreya:
Good morning everyone.
Welcome to the
Mission of Maitreya’s
Conversation Room.
As usual we
will come together today and discuss this Revelation that humanity
needs so badly at this time.
All the signs are showing that we need a new wine, a new
teaching, a new realization of unification that God has been
promising from the beginning that eventually He would reveal to
humanity that all the religions of the world have come from the same
Source, from the same God.
There are not
many Gods. There is only
one God, and all these Revelations have come from Him.
We gather
here every week so you have an outlet, a place that you can come and
discuss the Revelation that has been given in our website and
translations of our website all throughout the world.
So you can come here and ask any questions you might have.
If you have a
little sensitivity you will see the world needs a unifying message.
Just go to the social discussion rooms in PalTalk to see how
much hate and destructive tendencies have been generated and how
much people hate each other of different religions, races, and
cultures. They do not
know that all these religions and great things that have happened to
humanity have come from One God.
They separate all the Revelations from each other, and they
do not realize that even the Constitution of the
United States
has come from God. There
is no separation between that and the religions of the world.
So we can see that they are a small example of what humanity
is going through, and they really need to understand God’s Plan,
which now has been revealed.
Go ahead
Monthey. Do you want to
raise your hand and take the mic?
I hope you have gone to our website and studied our
teachings, and now you are here to ask questions related to the Mission of Maitreya.
You have realized the base of our teachings and how this Revelation
has been prophesied to come at this time.
Go ahead and
take the mic, Monthey.
Monthey:
Thank you very much.
First of all you have…, what can I say?
You have pretty well thought of religion.
But one thing is first, Allah says, we have sent this Book as
a command that will not be able to be changed, this commandment.
What do you have to say about that?
Thank you.
Maitreya:
Sure Monthey.
That is a
very good question. This
question has been asked from us many times, and many times has been
answered. The answer is
that, first of all, Prophet Muhammad said that He was the Khatam or
Khatem of the Prophets.
We have to
recognize that it has two meanings.
One means the last, and the other one means the very top of
the ring, or Seal. If
you study our teachings, we are the only people that have explained
that both of them are correct.
Prophet
Muhammad is the Seal of the Prophets.
If you go to our website and look at The Greatest Sign,
you will see that Islam is at the very top of the ring, or the
circle, and it is like a seal of a ring.
So yes indeed, he is the Seal of the Prophets.
Also, He
brought the highest spiritual realization to humanity and that is
surrendering and submission to God.
Therefore he is the Prophet who finished the spiritual part
of God’s Plan.
About we have
thought well about this Revelation, we haven’t thought about
anything. This is a
Revelation from God. God
has said and prophesied that before this Revelation there are only
two parts of His Word that would come to humanity, and when this
last Revelation of God comes to man there are twenty-five other
parts that will be revealed to man.
If you put
all the religions to this point together, and you know them all, you
only know two parts of God’s Revelations.
But if you know our teachings, you realize that no other
Prophet ever covered as much truth as we have.
Therefore you will easily recognize that indeed this
Revelation had to come and what we say is correct.
Also the religion of Islam is a part of this Plan, and God
said that Islam would come as a religion to humanity.
But there are
many places in the Koran that it says that He did not reveal
everything, first. And
secondly, the Koran was gathered together in the time of the
third Caliph, Othman, and when he was gathering the Koran
together they realized that there was more than one version of the
Revelation by the people who remembered when the Koran came.
Eventually
Othman had to make a decision, which version he would accept and
which version he would reject.
Therefore after he accepted this version as the official
Koran, the other versions, little by little, disappeared.
Even after
they gathered all the verses they thought there were, other people
came forward and said that they have other verses that they
remembered. But they did
not add to the Koran any more because that was the decision
that was made, and that was the final decision by Othman to accept
that version of the Koran.
He closed the door to any new verses that the people
remembered that were revealed through Prophet Muhammad.
Therefore the
Koran itself was not written down directly when it was
revealed, and there was more than one version of it.
One of the rules in
this room is, you wait until I finished answering you, then you can
go ahead and ask another question.
So hold on your typing and then we can answer your questions
one at a time.
In the
Koran Prophet Muhammad clearly said that he did not reveal
everything. He revealed
a portion of the Eternal Tablet, but not the whole thing.
So all these things clearly show that he did not accept that
he was the last Prophet.
Besides that, Moslems do not know about the Seven Seals, about the
other parts of the Scripture that God clearly said that there are
going to be Seven Revelations and when the Seventh Revealer, Seventh
Angel comes, he will finish His Religion.
Also the
Seventh Angel has to be from the Tribe of Judah.
He has to open the Seven Seals, etc.
So we can see if you really understand our teachings and see
this truth, you will see that Prophet Muhammad was not the last
Prophet in a sense that no Prophet will come after Him.
Actually the Koran clearly says, if God Wills, He can
raise a Prophet in every village, if He wills to do that.
So we direct
you and ask you to go and study our teachings in a greater degree,
understand the Word of God, and not try to be correct.
That is an ego that wants to be correct.
The humble Spirit will study, search, and understand the Word
of God, and then they will realize that, “Yes, God’s Plan and
Wording was different than the one we think it should be.”
So for all these reasons, meditate on these Words, and eventually
realize the truth that has now come to humanity.
Now your next question is:
Monthey:
How
do you pray to God?
Maitreya:
The best prayer to God is when you are in deep meditation, and you
are in a Soul-by-Soul relationship with God.
Then you are in that calm state of mind.
You can listen to God, and that is meditation.
Or you can pray to God by humbly going to your knees, and
pray to God in a deeper level in your spirit.
But if you
mean how we do every day, daily prayer, we have something very
similar to Namaz. It is
called The Reminder.
The wording
of it is in our website, if you want to go to the website or someone
can post the URL to The Reminder
[http://www.maitreya.org/english/INVOCATI.HTM], and you can go and
see the words there. It
has some similar movements as the Namaz that Moslems do five times a
day. We have recommended
for the people to do it at least twice daily, and if they want to do
it five times, that would be just fine.
So that is
the prayer that now is revealed.
It is a new wine, a new understanding, a new Revelation, and
therefore people can go to the website and realize that this is the
new way of doing that. The postures and the way it is done also are in the website.
Even there are some videos that show how it can be done.
Kelly is asking (I do not know if it is a question or it is a
statement, but let us see):
Kelly30211:
We are on the verge of going in to a global government, one that has
created mass genocides worldwide, and it seems to be continuing.
What are your thoughts on the New World Order and the One
World Religion that United Nations has announced?
Maitreya:
Yes, there are many people out there who are trying to create a new
world government or a new world system.
There is a group called the World Congress, and also the
United Nations that they want to create a world government.
They even have a flag.
Actually they did contact me and asked me to become one of
their high spiritual advisors.
I refused because this is the Revelation of God, not a
man-made idea.
What they are trying to create is a man-made
idea, which will not create the
Kingdom of
God on earth but it is going to be a
secular set-up, which has nothing to do with God and His Plan.
Our Revelation and our system is from God and is
based on the Communities of Light and the Laws and Ways of
God. Therefore theirs
will not work. Humanity
eventually has to realize that the only way to peace and unity is
the Plan of God that has been told will come to earth through the
Revelations, through the Scriptures, and through the coming of the
Seventh Revelation or the Last Revealer of the truth to humanity.
Everyone should recognize that the only way is
to come together and realize that all the religions of the world
have come from the same God.
There is no separation between them, and come and create the
Communities of Light so we can have the hierarchy from the
Communities of Light and create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
The text is going very fast here.
Let me see.
OK.
Cefas is asking:
Cefas07:
What to do to not be bold or drive for our personality?
Maitreya:
Cefas, if you can elaborate a little bit on that.
Do you mean what can we do not to be egoistical?
OK, I am
reading from the PM, “I been trying to change to be better.”
I see, “To act in the right way.”
OK, well I
think Cefas is asking how we can improve ourselves.
I think that is the gist of his question.
We have to meditate on ourselves, follow the Eternal
Divine Path, and realize how to overcome the ego and see our
habits. There has been a
long Satsang given about how to meditate, how to look at the
creatures and habits that we have in life.
Anytime we overcome one of those bad habits or bad actions
that we have in our life, we are one step closer to perfection.
If we follow
the Eternal Divine Path, that is the fastest way to overcome
our own bad habits, selfishness, and all the things that make us not
be a good person. When
you meditate, you go deep inside and deeply realize your connection
to God. You want to
become more Godly, and God is good.
Since God is good,
you want to be like Him. Therefore you will see yourself more and more in a clear way and see
the creatures in the dark crevices of the Soul.
Anytime you overcome one of them, you are one step closer to
perfection.
That is why
the first step in the Eternal Divine Path is meditation,
awakening of the spiritual forces, and seeing yourself clearly.
But if you meditate and you do not follow the rest of the
Eternal Divine Path, you might make mistakes and fall.
The next step
is the creation of the Communities of Light, because the Communities of Light are the base of the
Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth.
Then in the Communities of Light you sacrifice.
Humans do
not want to sacrifice. They want to have, have, have.
Therefore the next step, you turn around.
You go toward God, and you will become baptized because you
do not follow human nature anymore but you follow Godly nature.
By
sacrificing, you will not be self-centered.
That is one reason for being in this body, to learn how to
not be self-centered and selfish.
Therefore we can overcome the human part of us.
Then you
surrender and submit to God.
That is, in your meditation you realize why you are here and
where you are going, why God put you on this earth.
There is a reason for every person to be in this body on
earth. If that person
realizes why God put him or her in this body on earth, therefore
they realize the purpose of their life.
With universalism, you shatter all the narrowness of the mind and
the disease of separation between man and man, and humans, and all
the cultures and anything in the universe and earth.
Therefore you accelerate your progress in a greater degree if
you follow the Eternal Divine Path.
Also many
techniques are given in the
Mission to improve yourself, and little
by little one day you will see you have overcome a lot.
If you continue, eventually you will reach perfection.
I hope that
answered your question. If you have a follow-up, go ahead and ask a follow-up question about
what exactly you meant or if I did not answer you.
Kelly is asking:
Kelly30211:
What
if I am not studying religion, but I would like to live in love and
to everyone I get peace, is that OK?
Maitreya:
That is OK, but that is just the beginning of the spiritual journey.
There are many ways to meditate and see God.
Some people just love God with all their hearts, minds, and
spirits. That is called
the Bhakti, or devotional way to go to God.
The next step is, you realize and recognize our teachings again and
follow the Eternal Divine Path.
Our teaching basically says that you have to awaken your
spiritual forces. One
way is to love God with all your heart.
Then direct that energy toward the creation of the
Communities of Light.
Go to a
Community of Light
and teach other people how to love one another.
That is a great gift.
This great gift you can use to teach others how
to love Godly and become Godly in a way that loves them with the
Love of God. Therefore
there is nothing bad with loving people with the Godly Love.
But you have to follow the rest of the
Eternal Divine Path to see that Love is used for the Godly
purpose and reason, and bring the
Kingdom of
God
on earth.
Deepcover is asking:
Deepcover:
Maitreya
- if someone has never mediated before, where do we start?
Do we just quiet our body and listen?
Would you give new people a few pointers to help?
Maitreya:
There is a room in PalTalk called, “Meditate on the Universal
Mantra.” You can go
there, it is open 24/7, and you can hear the instructions of how to
meditate and how to use our Universal Mantra, which is:
Haree Om Shrii Hung, Om Nam Kevalam.
You can learn to meditate our meditation, and you can easily
learn how to mediate and go to a deeper level, and how to quiet your
mind.
The most important part in our meditation is the
stillness between the breathing in and breathing out.
We use the mantra for deeper breathing and also the mantra
has a special energy, which it carries with itself, which will bring
a greater and deeper meditation in the person.
There is a process to follow.
That process is to control the mind because the mind has been
running our lives all this time.
Now when we start following that process we have to really
work hard to tell the mind, “No, I am going to take you where I want
to take you, not you are going to take me where you want to take me
as you have been doing all along.”
So if you go to that room you will see there is
a process of meditation. There it is explained the use of the mantra, how to meditate, how to
concentrate on your breathing, how the breathing in and breathing
out and the stillness between breathing in and breathing out is so
important, and how in-between the breathing out and breathing in
there is a stillness and how that is important.
So indeed there are ways to meditate.
There are many Satsangs that have been given about
meditation. There are
videos and audios in the website that you can listen to, about how
to meditate.
Also “Meditate on the Universal Mantra” is a
good room to go to. I
think two or three times a week it has a live meditation class
there. You can find out
the times for the live meditation classes in that room and even talk
to the people in that room if you have a problem with the meditation
or if you have a question, and they will answer you.
Zeezed is asking:
Zeezed_the:
Why
do people see authority figures in people that meditate much?
Patanjali states that the goal of Yoga is cessation of mind.
How is this possible?
Maitreya:
Well, the reason people see authority in the people who meditate is
because they are closer to God, they are closer to Spirit.
God has the greatest authority and influence on the people on
earth and creation.
He created the creation so His Spirit has indeed greater power.
How to
meditate and the goal of cessation of the mind:
That is not the goal in this
Mission.
The goal of this
Mission is to create the Communities
of Light and eventually reach a point that the people will have
more time and an environment that they can meditate in a greater
degree. Eventually many
of them will reach salvation, and in that state they will realize
what all those sayings of
India, the Mahatmas, and the Great Souls in
India meant,
which have been explaining what meditation is.
What is the
goal of meditation? There are many ways to realize God, and many people have meditated
and realized something, then they wrote it down believing that is
the only way.
However, it
does not matter how much other people tell you what meditation is
and what is the goal of life and what is the goal of meditation.
Eventually you have to reach a point that you yourself
experience that state. As long as you have not experienced that state, it is just an idea.
It is just a writing.
That is, the
meditation and salvation is an experience.
It is a state of achievement.
So anyone who came back and told you what it is, they
probably have not reached it completely because when you reach
there, you do not come back.
You might
come back later on as an Avatar, or a great Being, as a Sat Guru, or
people who have been meditating for many lifetimes.
That is what we are looking for.
We are looking for the Elects, the people who have been
meditating for the last 12,000 years and now this Revelation has
come to them, they see it, they realize it, and they say, “Yes, that
makes sense. All
religions have come from the same Source, and now we have to let
humanity know that.”
So they have
the answer, instead of yelling at each other and destroying one
another and not realizing that indeed God has sent all the
religions.
Your
religion is not bad. We
are not like other groups or organizations that say, “No, only our
religion is good. Your
religion is bad.” This
Revelation says, “Your religion is OK.
But it is not the highest.
It is not the last.
It is not the Seventh Seal.”
Your
Revealer is not the person who God said would bring the last
Revelation of God. Therefore they will realize, now this is the perfection of God’s
Revelation. And when
they see that, they do not have to fight and destroy each other and
have all the problems that we have on earth at this time.
Then they
will realize that God has been sending all these things, and they
will not separate one another.
They will have time to meditate and reach Pure Consciousness.
Zeezed is asking:
Zeezed_the:
Maitreya,
you say that meditation is not about ideas of no-mind.
Why does Patanjali say in the
yoga sutras that no-mind is the ultimate aim?
Maitreya:
I did not say that is not true.
I said at this time we have to create the environment, we
have to create the Communities of Light, we have to bring the
peace on earth first. Then you can experience that state that Patanjali is explaining.
The goal is
not to accept Patanjali as the truth.
The goal is to experience what those words are expressing
themselves, and you cannot do that until you create an environment
where the physiological and safety needs of all humans are provided.
Then the
children are taught from the very beginning that the Goal of their
Life is to be(come) Divine, to become one with God.
The goal is not to hoard money.
The goal is not to become a doctor, or professor, or lawyer,
or this and that, but to reach Pure Consciousness.
So we have
to create the environment for them that they realize, yes indeed,
they have to meditate and awaken their spiritual forces, create an
environment that the old people are not afraid that they will be
left in the street or no one will be taking care of them, or they
are going to be put in a little place and be forgotten, an
environment that they can be productive in the old age and take care
of the children, etc. Therefore the creation of the
Communities of Light and the
Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth is the most important
action humans can do at this time.
After the
Communities of Light and the Kingdom is created, and we brought
peace to earth, then there will be many people who will meditate and
will understand what Patanjali meant by neglecting the mind and
going to God. That is
the aim of the eventual creation of the
Kingdom
Of
Heaven On Earth,
to go to heaven.
But heaven
is not a place; it is not a manifested place.
It is a state of consciousness.
Therefore if we understand this state of consciousness, we have to
create an environment that more people can reach that state in a
greater degree.
So I am not disputing your understanding.
I am just saying the way to get there in the fastest way is
this
Mission.
Zeezed_the:
What
is the value of kriya yoga?
Maitreya:
Well, all the yogis have some truth in them and some understanding
of human psyche and Spirit.
But eventually every human has to understand and realize what
their way of meditation and going deeper inside is.
Each individual is different.
That is why there are so many ways in
India that people follow.
There is a kind of confusion because the person who came and
brought this new way of yoga and doing the meditation, had his own
preferences. So they
create a group or the way to meditate.
Kriya yoga is one of them.
If that appeals to you, that is fine, but that is the
beginning of the Eternal Divine Path.
If you read
our teachings, meditation and awakening of our spiritual forces is
the beginning of the Eternal Divine Path.
The next step is directing that toward the creation of the
Communities of Light.
Meditation
and all these teachings from the
Far East
are the beginning of the awakening of the spiritual forces and
knowing thyself. The
next step is given in the Old Testament.
The Old Testament is talking about the Communities of
Light. After you
awaken your spiritual forces, you direct your energy toward the
creation of the Communities of Light, which the Old Testament
teaches.
Then you
sacrifice for them. That
is the message of Christ, Esa, that in order to create the Communities of Light you have to sacrifice and give of yourself.
Actually meditation without sacrifice can be dangerous and
will create greater ego.
After you
sacrifice to create the Communities of Light, you surrender
and submit to God. That
is the message of Islam. Islam brings the understanding of surrendering and submission to the
Will of God. With that,
there is no ego left.
Isn’t the
goal of yoga to become one with God?
If you are surrendered and submitted to God and if you are
realizing that God is the Doer through you, you are not the doer, He
is the Doer, and you and God are one.
There is no separation.
So you can see that the goal of yoga is achieved in the state
of surrendering and submission to God.
The next
step is universalism, realizing that God is everything.
There is no separation between man and man and woman and
woman, and man and woman, and all the parts of the universe.
With that you shatter all the narrowness of the mind as a
separation by language, nationality, creed, and anything that
separates a part of the universe from the other part.
With this,
of course, you become an Elect.
You become a person that you can create an environment that
people can reach a state of Pure Consciousness, or no mind, or
whatever that teaching of the Far East is.
So with this not only you see there is a Path that shatters all the
narrowness of the mind, takes you to God, and accelerates the
process, also it unifies all the religions of the world.
That is what
God has been doing. God
has been sending all these Revelations, religions, and teachings
including the Far East Philosophies, whatever
India and Buddhists have for
humanity. Now He has
sent this to teach them, “Look, you are all a part of a greater
understanding and teaching, and therefore your teaching is OK.”
The Moslems
teaching is OK. The
Christian teaching is OK.
The Jewish teaching is OK.
Now God is telling everyone, your teaching is OK.
But realize and see where it falls in the Eternal Divine
Path, and therefore come, be united, follow the Eternal
Divine Path, and accelerate your progress.
Zeezed is asking:
Zeezed_the:
Communities
of Light
are people. Meditation
is one person. How can
you establish Communities of Light made up of people willing
to meditate but not meditating until those Communities of Light
come about?
Maitreya:
No, again I did not say you should not meditate until the
Communities of Light come along.
No, if you have time, energy, and the ability to meditate,
start it right now. You
do not have to wait for the Communities of Light to start;
you can meditate at this time.
If you have been meditating, great.
Actually we are looking for the people who have been
meditating for the last 12,000 years.
They have been incarnated again and again, and at this time.
They have been with Noah, and he taught them how to meditate.
They have been with Abraham.
They have been with Moses.
They have been with Christ.
They have been with Prophet Muhammad.
They have been with Bab.
They have been with every Major Manifestation who came on
earth, and they have realized and seen the truth.
Now when they see this Revelation they realize, “Yes,
this makes sense.” Indeed for the last 12,000 years, after the flood of Noah, God
closed the third eye of humanity and humans did not have any
connection with the Spirit any longer.
Now God says, “OK, now I am going to open your third
eyes again, and I am going to reveal to you a greater truth that
people knew before the 12,000 years.”
But after 12,000 years of human disconnection and the 6,000
years of history, man has to realize that they have to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
It makes sense to them, and they realize their religion is a part of
a greater truth.
Hinduism is a part of this teaching.
Buddhism is a part of this teaching.
Judaism is a part of this teaching.
Christianity is a part of this teaching.
Islam is a part of this teaching.
Baha’i Teaching is a part of this teaching.
Paravipras, the Elects, are a part of this teaching.
This teaching is the only Revelation that God said, “When it
comes, It reveals the whole truth.
When it comes, the mystery of God is finished.”
Therefore, anyone to this point who had any truth with
them did not have the whole picture.
Now it is the time that the whole picture is given to
humanity. Those who have
been called for it, they can see it clearly, and they say, “Yes, it
makes sense. It covers
all religions of the world, unifies them, and reveals much more than
any other religions that they have ever had before.”
So that is the new wine you have
to study in our website and realize, no, we are not saying you have
to wait to meditate until after the Communities of Light are
created. No, meditate
but at the same direct your energies toward the creation of the Communities of Light.
With doing that, your meditation is going to be a
better mediation. Follow
the Eternal Divine Path with your meditation, and you will
see your progress in a greater degree.
The question is:
Zeezed_the:
You
said that the
Kingdom
of
Heaven was a
state of consciousness and it needed the Communities of Light
to come about on earth.
Maitreya:
Again there are three kingdoms that we teach:
The Kingdom of Heaven within, which is that state of
consciousness; The Kingdom of Heaven on earth; and the
Kingdom of
Heaven in Heaven.
The
Kingdom
Of
Heaven On Earth
is the Second Seal in The Greatest Sign and in the Eternal
Divine Path. After
you meditate and try to awaken your spiritual forces, you direct
your energy and understanding towards the creation of the Communities of Light.
After the Communities of Light are created all over
the earth, eventually a hierarchy will emerge from these
communities, which will bring the
Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth.
So the
Kingdom
Of
Heaven On Earth
is not a state of consciousness but is a real manifestation of the
hierarchy from the people, by the people, and for people, from the
Communities of Light, from the grassroots on earth.
And that is not a state of consciousness.
After you
follow the Eternal Divine Path and when you reach the Sixth
Seal in the Eternal Divine Path, which is called the Elects,
you are in a state of consciousness that you are called a Paravipra.
“Para” means beyond.
“Vipra” means intellect.
You go beyond intellect.
You become intelligent.
It is explained in our teachings who intelligent people are.
They are the
people that they awaken their spiritual forces.
They create the Communities of Light.
They sacrifice for them.
They surrender and submit to the Will of God for themselves
and the Eternal Divine Path.
They become universalists, therefore they shatter all the
narrowness of the mind. They become Paravipras or beyond intellect, spiritual, and also are
incorruptible.
Such a
people have been created for the last 12,000 years, and now they are
manifesting themselves to this
Mission.
Very slowly, gradually, they come to the
Mission, love the
Mission, and follow It.
So they will
create that hierarchy that eventually will be manifested from the Communities of Light.
They will become the leaders who will create the peace on
earth and unity, and they will provide an environment that people
who want to meditate can meditate in a greater degree and progress
toward Pure Consciousness in a much faster pace.
So it is a
complete package. It is
not just a part of God’s Revelation.
If you understand our teachings you will see the perfection
of life and the fastest way to create the
Kingdom of
God
on earth, and also help individuals to reach Pure Consciousness.
Therefore,
even Hindus have to recognize and realize that they do not have the
whole package. Christians should realize the same thing, as should Buddhists,
Moslems, and all the religions of the world.
They have to realize that their Revelations were not perfect,
until the Seventh Angel comes.
Now the
Seventh Angel has come. The Seventh Seal is opened.
The Book with the Seven Seals has been revealed to humanity.
It is free for you to go to our website, read it, understand
it, follow it, and realize, “Yes, indeed, God is incredible.”
But the question again is:
Zeezed_the:
What is self-realization?
Maitreya:
Self-realization comes after you follow the
Eternal Divine Path
and eventually we create the environment on earth that people can
meditate in a greater degree and realize that they and God are One.
There is no separation between man and God.
You do not need any person between you and God.
You are connected to God completely, directly, with nothing
in-between.
Therefore by
understanding this, you follow the Eternal Divine Path and
meditate. One day you
see, you really do not exist.
It is God alone who exists.
Your delusion of being separated from God makes you think
that you exist, and that is, of course, probably what Patanjali
meant by “no mind.” He
probably really meant the subconscious mind.
No subconscious mind will leave you connected to God
directly.
When you
realize that you and God are One, there is no separation, and you
will jump like that Sufi who says, “Anallah,” that, ”I am God.”
And the orthodox Moslems are petrified that a person thinks
they are God. Many of
them have been crucified, stoned, and killed because they said they
are God, when Christ clearly said in the New Testament, “Thy are
gods.” And in Hinduism
says, “Atman and atman are one.”
God and man
are not separated. Even
in the Bible it says, “You are created in the image of God.”
That is
self-realization, when you recognize that you really do not exist;
it is God that comes through you, and you and God are One.
Therefore you have experienced God and you become a great
asset for the community because you do not have any ego any longer.
You are connected to God, and you can help humanity in a
greater degree to go to God.
The more of
this kind of people we create, the faster humanity will reach
Godhood and Pure Consciousness.
That is the goal of the creation of the
Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth,
to accelerate this process of self-realization.
The question
of Bolle boos is:
Bolle boos:
So
who has the whole package?
Maitreya:
We have the whole package.
This Revelation is the Revelation of the Seventh Seal,
revealed by the Seventh Angel who opened the Seven Seals.
And the Book sealed with the Seven Seals fulfills all the
prophecies of Its coming.
It also connects the Revealer to the genealogy of Prophet
Muhammad, King David, and Adam.
Therefore all the signs have been given to humanity that this
is the last Revelation of God to man.
Therefore this is whole package.
Before the coming of the Seventh Angel you cannot claim that you
have the whole answer.
Bolle boos, you have to wait until your questions are answered
before you can type another question.
Cefas is asking:
Cefas:
Do the Seven Seals represent the Seven-Spirit-Initiation that
all beings should do?
Maitreya:
Yes indeed, the Seven Seals are related to the seven chakras, the
seven power centers in the human body.
Each of the initiations that we give in the
Mission is related
to one psychic center in the human, and they can meditate on that
and awaken that psychic center little by little.
One of the meanings of the Seven Seals is those Seven Spirits
in every man, or chakras.
Of course the whole universe also has seven
levels: Five lokas and
koshas and the world, and they are all connected to the koshas, the
spirit of man, and they are interrelated.
If you want to know more about that, we have a book called
Universe and Man in our website, or if you have the Book,
The
Holiest Of The Holies, you can read that and see how human and
the universe actually are in each others’ image.
They are not separated.
Bolle boos is asking:
Bolle boos:
I am not god; I am one.
By speaking god, you already separate.
Maitreya:
You probably should rephrase your question.
What do you mean, “I am not god; I am one.
By speaking god you already separate?”
Well, the
only way you can explain the Path is by speaking.
Actually this has been prophesied that he will come with the
sword of his mouth and will destroy the ignorance and the
misunderstanding between humans.
And that is
exactly how the Revelation of God comes through the Prophet, by the
Word of mouth. Through
the truth that it reveals to humanity they eventually will recognize
and realize it is from God.
Therefore, there is no separation by speaking and showing the
way.
I am not
going to walk it for you.
There is a way.
There is a Path that you have to walk, that you have to recognize
that God has been sending to humanity.
Therefore it is not that I am bringing unity with my speech.
I am just bringing explanation with my speech.
I am showing
the way. But you are the
one who has to walk it. I cannot walk it for you.
No one else can walk it for you.
If you
recognize that this Revelation has come from God, with all the
signs, prophecies. and the foretelling of the coming of this
Revelation and the opening of the Seven Seals, and everything that
has been revealed to you through this Mission, then you have
no choice at the end but to say, “Yes indeed, this person has been
chosen by God to bring this Revelation to us and now we see it
clearly. We can trust
this Revelation, follow the Eternal Divine Path, and see the
benefit of it.”
When you see the benefit of it you will recognize,
“Yes indeed, it works.” It is not something that says, “Go meditate.
Do not worry about it,” and then just leave you alone.
No, it just
gives you a precise way of shattering your ego and awakening your
spiritual forces. First
creation of the Communities of Light, create an environment
that everyone can meditate and progress in a greater degree.
Sacrifice shatters the self-centeredness.
Surrendering and submission to God brings unity between you
and God, and you know the purpose of your life.
Universalism shatters all the narrowness of the mind that so
deeply humans have fallen into.
Therefore you become a person, a dynamic spiritual being, that God
called the Elects all through His Revelations.
So by understanding this you realize that these words are the
guiding lights. They are
not going to take you anywhere if you do not follow the Eternal
Divine Path.
Justkiddng is asking:
Justkidding_1:
Sal-Om
Maitreya.
Maitreya:
Sal-OM Justkidding.
I
hope everything is OK with you.
Haven’t heard from you for some time.
I hope all is well.
The question is:
Justkidding_1:
Why the need for initiation?
Isn't God's Plan already revealed by you in
THOTH
and that His Grace is given freely to those who believe?
Maitreya:
Indeed.
The initiation
is really the icing on the cake, you can say.
Actually The Word is for me.
God has given It for me.
Christ knew It.
Prophet Muhammad knew It.
All the Prophets have reached It.
But this
time is an extra thing for giving to people who really want to
become my close associates.
Their energy becomes one with my energy and as close as
possible.
Therefore
The Word initiation of The Holy Word is reserved for a very specific
people. They dedicate
their lives completely, they realize and accept me as their source
of inspiration and Revelation, and they are willing to do whatever I
want them to do.
Therefore,
there is no struggle between us.
They trust me completely.
And I trust them completely.
This trust between us creates a great environment that we can
work very closely together.
So the
person who wants to be initiated in The Holy Name is really saying,
“Yes, I am ready. I am a
person dedicated to you completely.”
In a sense you can say that those who want to be initiated,
initiate their work directly for me, and they understand the
teachings and realize, “Yes, it is God,” and that is enough for
them. They work for the
Mission and God, and they realize everything is in
the
Mission.
But of course they are not completely mine, in a sense of we
can work together as one unit.
Therefore
asking for initiation means, “I want to make a Covenant with you and
God.” If you realize
that God indeed is manifesting through me, when you make a Covenant
with me, you make a Covenant with God and you do not argue with God,
you do not create an environment that God cannot work with you.
Of course,
God is not a dictator, He is open to suggestions, to great
understanding, and flexibility with you.
But at the same time we come to know each other more and
more, and we reach a point that we can work greatly with one another
and make this Mission to manifest.
So initiation is for the people who are absolutely dedicated to me
and my
Mission and God.
If you see the Vision and you
love It, and you want to do things for It, great.
Go for It.
That
is fine. It is no
problem at all.
Justkidding is asking:
Justkidding_1:
Will those and only those initiated make up the 144,000 Elects?
Maitreya:
Ah, we will see.
It will be revealed little by little exactly who they are.
Most probably you might be correct because I need that many
numbers of Paravipras to manifest this
Mission.
To create
and establish this
Mission
there are people needed that they can forego their own ego and
become absolutely submissive to the Will of God.
We can work together in a greater degree and reach a point
that we can create an environment that we can get this
Mission to manifest Itself.
That needs people who are very dedicated to the
Mission, and they are absolutely one
with what we are doing.
Indeed it will be so incredibly time-consuming that God
has revealed it is going to take three lifetimes to accomplish it.
So in this lifetime we are not even looking for the creation
of the Kingdom on earth. Humanity is not ready for it.
We can see that our teaching has been here for twenty-five years and
still humans have not understood It, reached It, realized It, and
they have a problem to recognize the beauty of It and how perfect
and complete it is.
Those who
recognize It and realize It, why do they not want to completely
dedicate their lives to it?
If a person sees the Vision and realizes it is from God, then
the next step is very natural, “OK, I am willing to give everything
for this Revelation that is from God.
I am not going to hold onto my beliefs and past religion
because now this is a new wine.
I cannot put the old wine into this new skin.”
But that is
OK. We do not expect
people who come to the
Mission
to understand this in a greater degree right away.
Religion is
not compulsory. It is
something that has to eventually settle in a person, and they come
to this conclusion, “Yes, this is It.
I believe It.”
It
says everything.
All the
signs say it is from God.
This is the Revelation that Buddhists were waiting for,
Moslems were waiting for, Hindus were waiting for, Christians, Jews,
you name it, they have been waiting for this Revelation.
Now it is here, therefore I accept It.
I am a
Buddhist, fine. Maybe
Buddha did not have some parts of the other religions that the other
religions have. Maybe I
add that to my religion. Now I have a greater understanding.
So with this, the next natural step is, “Yes, I will make a Covenant
with you, and I will follow the Covenant and be a part of this
Revelation.” I have a
hard time to see how anyone can be one of the 144,000 and not have a
Covenant with the
Mission.
We need two kinds of people in the
Mission:
The supportive part, that they will support the
Mission
and they will bring the physical necessities so we can support a
great number of teachers who eventually will reach to different
communities and will bring a greater degree of the spreading of this
Mission and this understanding; and there are the teachers
who will be supported with the support group.
So there are two types of people that will be here.
Also there is another group, the leaders.
At this time we need more people in the support group than teachers,
but if there are teachers that can join us, that would be great too.
Bramble is asking:
Bramble1978:
I just had a quick question.
I have seen another site, with the “Maitreya,” not classified as a
religious kind of thing. What does the word
Maitreya mean, and why are there two
kinds?
Maitreya:
Well, actually if you go to the Internet and search for the
name “Maitreya,” there are more than two.
There are many of them that they claim to be Maitreya.
And you have to ask simply the question:
Did they fulfill the prophecies?
Have their opened the Seven Seals?
Did they reveal the Book sealed with the Seven Seals?
Are they the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?… and on and on.
See if they have all of the qualifications that are necessary
to claim that they are Maitreya.
Maitreya
is the expected Buddha, or the Fifth Buddha to come, or the last
Buddha in Buddhism.
Maitreya means friend.
It comes from the root Maiteya.
In English it has been translated as “the Compassionate One.”
Therefore Maitreya
by itself is the Fifth Buddha to come.
But of course many other religions also are expecting for the last
Revelation or Revealer to come from their religion.
Bramble1978:
They aren’t coming as a religious teaching.
Maitreya:
Well, I do not know which.
Are you talking about the Share International or their
Maitreya? You have to
tell me, which one are they?
If you are talking about Share International, they are based
on a teaching of the hierarchies, and Mr. Crème that claimed in 1982
that Maitreya would manifest himself on earth.
Bramble1978:
Yes,
I think Share International.
Maitreya:
They believe that Maitreya
will come. Actually they
were the people who foretold that
Maitreya will come in
1982, and we were the only Maitreya that reached out to
humanity in the spring of 1982.
They are still waiting for their Maitreya to come, and
somehow make his body, manifest himself, and say, “Kingdom come,”
and the Kingdom is supposed to come right away.
Well, good luck.
If we have a person that can bring the Kingdom with the snap of a
finger…, well, it has never happened in the past.
History has never shown that something like that is possible.
So they have
been waiting for that for a long time, and we wish them good luck.
But we do not think it is going to happen.
It is wishful thinking.
So even what
they teach is not based on the Scriptures, and their Maitreya, even
if he comes, has never fulfilled the prophecies, opened the Seven
Seals, etc. So in a way
they have foretold that Maitreya comes in 1982 but at the
same time they created a lot of confusion.
The same
thing happened when John the Baptist came.
John the Baptist came and said Christ is going to come.
But when Christ came, John the Baptist could not recognize
him. He had to send his
disciples to Christ and say, “Are you the one or should we still
look for someone else?” when Christ clearly was showing that he was
the one.
John the
Baptist could not understand, and his disciples could not
understand, because they had their own ideas of how the Christ would
come. So they did not
recognize him. It is the
same thing happening now.
Mr. Crème is not recognizing us because he has his own ideas
of how this should happen.
So there are
a lot of other Maitreyas but you have to ask yourself, which one is
the correct one?
Also that is
another prophecy fulfilled, “Many will come and say, I am Christ.
I am Maitreya.
I
am this and that.” But
the only One who fulfills the prophecies, etc., is the One.
You have to really meditate and test the Spirit, which one
has fulfilled the prophecies? Which
one’s Words are the same as the Words of God?
Who is revealing the truth, based on the Scriptures?
Are these people who are claiming, are they really bringing
the Word of God or are they on an ego trip, etc.?
So you have
to really meditate and eventually come to this conclusion:
Which one is the correct one.
Cefas is asking:
Cefas07:
Is Maitreya a name and also an energy?
Maitreya:
Of course, as we said Maitreya is just expected from the
Buddhist part, and they are looking for Maitreya as the Fifth
Buddha to come.
The Hindus are looking for the Kalki Avatar, the
tenth Avatar and the last Avatar to come.
That will bring the unity to all religions and eventually
bring the
Kingdom
of
God on
earth.
The Jews are waiting for the Messiah.
They are still waiting for Him to come.
Christians are waiting for Christ to return.
Moslems are waiting for the Mahdi.
Also many of them are waiting for Christ to come back.
They believe that Christ will come and establish Islam on
earth. But as we know,
what humans think and what God does are two different things.
Even when Prophet Muhammad came himself, Jews
accepted him as the Messiah, as the Prophet they were waiting for.
But after they saw that he was not going to make everyone
Jews, they rejected him. It is the same thing here.
Moslems think when the Mahdi comes, or when the Christ comes,
he is going to make everyone Moslem.
But indeed maybe they have something there
because the people who follow the Eternal Divine Path will
become better Moslems, better Christians, better Jews, and better
Hindus. Also we
encourage everyone to read all those Scriptures and see the Essence
that they bring to humanity.
At the end all people are better off to be a Divine.
As we understand this, we realize that yes indeed this is a
Revelation from God and therefore we have no choice but to accept it
as a Revelation come for humanity.
And, “Is it an energy?”
Of course energy…, it depends on what you mean by energy.
Energy can be interpreted in a very narrow way.
It is more than an energy; it is a Revelation, it is a
manifestation of truth from God, a Message to humanity, it is a way,
it is a Light for humanity to come together and realize that God is
One and He has sent all these religions and now they are all
unified. So it is more
than an energy.
But Maitreya is a name that Buddhists are
waiting for his Revelation to come under.
Of course, as I said, other religions also are expecting Him
to come with other names.
But all of them again are fulfilled with this Revelation.
Moslems are even waiting for Him to come by the
name of Mohammad, and his father’s name is going to be “the servant
of God.” Of course, I
was born by the name of Mohammad.
My father was named Abdul Karim, which means “the servant of
God.” So that fulfills
that prophecy for them.
There is a section of prophecies
in our website. We
encourage everyone to read them for us.
I did not write them.
Some other people came and wrote them.
So you can go and read them, and see that no other Prophet
ever fulfilled as many prophecies as are fulfilled in this
Mission.
Bramble is asking:
Bramble1978:
The
Quran doesn’t support the waiting of the Mahdi though.
Maitreya:
That is true, but it supports the idea that God can raise a Prophet
in every village if He wants to.
Therefore God is an able God in Islam, and He can do whatever
He wants.
So even
saying God cannot do this or that it should be a blasphemy in Islam,
and is incorrect, because the Koran clearly says God cannot
be bound with any human ideas, dogmas, or understandings.
He is an able God.
He can do whatever He wants.
In the Hadiths and also in the Shia branch of Islam,
the coming of Mahdi and the coming of Christ or Esa has been
accepted with all the branches of Islam.
They are waiting for another Revealer or Revelation to come.
The truth of
it is that there will be more than one after Prophet Muhammad; there
would be three. And that
would be the universalist, or the Baha’i teaching, the concept of
Paravipra or Elects, the Sixth Seal, and the Revelation of the
Seventh Seal, which is now is revealed through this
Mission.
Now humanity has the whole package, the whole picture.
It they understand our teachings and see the Vision, they
will realize, “Yes, indeed, it is the whole package.”
It is a Revelation that explains all other religions.
It completely sheds light on all the parts of the religions
that have not been explained or could not be explained before.
A lot of
people come to our room and say, “No, it is impossible to unify all
religions. Islam is
different than Christianity.
Buddhism is different than Hinduism.
Judaism is different than Christianity, Islam, and Baha’i.”
It is not.
It is
explained. It has been
revealed now clearly how they all fit together like a hand and
glove.
Bramble1978:
Sorry I lost sound - was my point referred to?
Maitreya:
Yes, your point was that the
Koran does not support the
waiting for the Mahdi. If you lost sound, do you have the sound now?
Bramble, do you have the sound?
OK well, do not worry, these lectures usually are posted to
our website in a couple of hours.
You can go and download them.
Just go to our website and in the first page click on the
“newsflash,” and there are…
OK sure.
If anyone
did not hear their answer, these Conversations are posted on the
website in a couple of hours after they are prepared.
You can download them and listen to them, and see what the
answer to your question was.
But the
answer to your question that the Koran does not support
waiting for a Mahdi, is that it is an accepted part of Islam in all
branches that there will be another Revealer to come.
Of course in
Shia, they are waiting for Mahdi, which is the last Imam who went
into hiding, and they are waiting for him to come back.
As Christians are waiting for Christ to come, they are
waiting for Mahdi the same way, as a person who is alive and will
come back at the end time.
Many of the branches in Islam also are waiting for Christ to
return at the end time. [Something typed in text here]
Yes, well, but some of the Hadiths, some of the sayings
of Prophet Muhammad, are correct and acceptable.
Many of them, of course, it is doubtful they are from him.
But there are some that are acceptable.
That is one of them that has been accepted by many people,
and they are waiting for such a Being to come.
So we do not
go with the belief of Moslems, we go with the Revelation of God and
the Word of God, which has prophesied that the Seventh Revelation
will come. The Koran
and Prophet Muhammad are the Fourth One.
Therefore it
does not matter really what the Hadiths say, or if is it in the Koran or not, the most important thing is, the Word of God in
other Scriptures clearly says that there is going to be more than
the Koran and Islam.
There are going to be other Revelations to come.
Only when the Seventh Revelation comes will the mystery
of God be finished. It
means that is the last one.
If the Fourth One comes and says, “I am the last one,” no
matter how much they say it is the last one, it is not the Revealer
of the whole truth. Therefore it cannot be the last Revelation, and therefore we go with
that.
But in general, even in Islam, the belief of most of the people is
that there is going to be other Revelations.
Justkidding is asking:
Justkidding_1:
One
trivial question. What
sort of food is good for health?
You have talked about satvic food and others, but I do not
understand those terms.
Maitreya:
Well, really the food and what is good for human is an individual
choice, an individual following.
Each person has to recognize what is good for them.
As you meditate and you become more sensitive to your body,
you will realize what food is more important to the body and how
healthier it is.
In general
there are two kinds of food.
There are yin and yang, or there are cold and hot, or
alkaline and acidic food, which affect the human body.
If you eat too much acidic food, you create an acidity body
and your stomach becomes upset.
Your stomach becomes acidic, you do not feel good, and you
become lethargic, etc. That is from too much tamasic food.
If you feel
too much acidic food, eat more vegetables and fruit, which are more
alkaline. If you eat too
many fruits and vegetables and become too alkaline, again you become
spacey and you become a little ineffective.
You might feel good but you do not get any thing done, and
you become a very spacey person, etc.
So what food
is good for you? The
best way again is meditation.
Become familiar with your body.
Read our teachings.
In general
the more satvic food, the better for consciousness.
The more tamasic food is better for the body.
So if you bring a balance within these two; that is the best.
If you eat
too much satvic food you do not become a very effective person and
you just want to sit there and meditate.
You do not want to do anything.
You might become an escapist and leave the life and the
society, and go to the mountains.
If you eat
too much tamasic food, you become acidic, lethargic, and tamasic.
And that is not good.
So the best
way is the balance. That
balance comes as you become more and more familiar with your body
and you create a balance between acidity and alkaline, between yin
and yang, between cold and hot.
Different cultures call them different things.
Also eat food grown locally.
They were created to heal local diseases and are more
conducive for local consumption.
OK Bramble is asking:
Bramble1978:
Do
you agree with the part in the Quran about no pig meat?
If so, do you know the reason behind not being allowed to eat
pig?
Maitreya:
Yes, we agree with that part of the
Koran.
We also do not recommend eating pigs.
Of course in the past, one of the reasons for not eating pig
was because they had some parasites and diseases that would make you
sick. That is one of the
reasons.
But the
greater reason for it is because pig is very tamasic.
Pig eats garbage.
What kind of the meat will those animals make if they eat mostly
garbage and not very good vegetables and food?
Therefore
the pig meat will affect your mind.
If you eat pig, it is the same as eating garbage.
Just eat vegetables and fruit for a month and become very
satvic. If you are a
person who has already been eating meat, try eating pig one more
time to see what happens to your mind.
Your mind will not be calm anymore.
Your mind will not be focused anymore.
You cannot meditate, and it is very scattered.
It will affect you.
As you
meditate more and more, you will realize that that kind of food is
not for consciousness. We do not cut other kosher food from human consumption.
We do not say, do not eat meat.
Someone was
saying that if you eat meat, do not talk about God.
Well, really most of the Prophets who came and brought the
great Revelations to humanity all ate meat.
There is no Prophet who came to humanity who did not eat
meat.
So it is not something that goes in your mouth that defiles you but
what comes out of it and your actions.
But in
general, the satvic foods are better for your consciousness, and
tamasic foods are better for your body.
And there are foods that are not good for you at all.
In general
we follow the Jewish food categories, and also the guidelines in
Islam. If you follow
those guidelines, you will be fine, but eat as little meat as
possible, and consume more vegetables.
Even the
American government has reached the same conclusion, that vegetables
and grains are much better.
They used to say, have a balance of them.
Now they say, No, have more vegetables and grains, and eat as
little meat and sugar as possible.
Justkidding is asking:
Justkidding_1:
Modern day animals are raised with chemicals too.
They are not as healthy to consume as well?
Maitreya:
That is correct, and that is another thing that
Communities of
Light should be doing, use the new techniques and science
without the by-products and the things that will affect the human
health and mind. There
are a lot of hormones that are used in animals, which are really
affecting a lot of people by eating their meat.
They are using hormones, chemicals, and the things that are
affecting the human brains.
That is another thing that has to be corrected.
Animals should be raised in an environment that they are as natural
as possible, but at the same time using the scientific ways to
create more food for human consumption.
Maybe one
way is the genetic engineering and creating the ability to yield in
a greater degree from the same field, or even start using the ocean,
the top of the ocean, to create more places to raise food.
Or even live under the ocean.
Or go to other planets and expand the human race to other
places that they can stay alive and live.
So there are
many ways humans can improve themselves and grow in a greater
degree. But they do not
have to use chemicals and the things that are not good for them.
That is a part of the
Mission also.
It is called science based on Spirit.
Scientific
discoveries should be according to natural ways.
If they have a by-product, they have to take care of the
by-product and the affect they have on humans before we go ahead and
use them without that realization and how it does affect us.
All right.
We are at the 11:30 time of our Conversation.
That was a great Conversation today, many good questions.
I hope all of you again go to the website.
Realize again, you are the Light of the world.
You have this Revelation to let humanity know they are not
separated. They are all
from the same God, and they should realize what part they belong to in
this Path. They should
stop yelling at each other and destroying one another and they
should come together and recognize the Will of God for humanity to
become One.
Your work is
to give the Message. Your
work is not to convert them.
It is their work to convert themselves to this Revelation.
Your work is easy.
Just give the Message and leave them to God.
But answer their questions and let them know that indeed this
Revelation explains everything.
If you cannot answer their questions, let them come to this room and
converse with me, and God will provide the answers correctly to them
and they will know that indeed God has sent this Revelation to them
to unify them as one humanity, one God, one Revelation, and all are
One.
Also you can send your questions
to the
Mission.
OK, I will
answer your question, Bramble.
This is going to be the last answer that will be given.
The question is:
Bramble1978:
Are there new laws and stuff?
Maitreya:
The Laws are already given in Islam.
The Islamic Laws or Shariah, with a little modification, can
be followed and implemented.
These are the Laws that bring great peace and very little
crime in a society. Of
course they have to be modified.
They have to be thought over a little more, modernized, and
the parts that are not based on a higher level cut off.
Also, first
you have to create a just society before you can implement God’s
Laws. The reason those
Laws of Moses and Prophet Muhammad were not able to affect society
and create the ideal environment they came for was because the
society they were trying to implement it in was not just.
How can a dictator decide what is Godly and what is not, when
what he is doing is not the Godly way to running God’s people?
So first of all you have to bring the Kingdom, and then the Laws
will be God’s Laws.
Sal-OM
everyone. Be good.
Be with God and go to our website again, read
THOTH, understand
our teachings, and become proficient in this Revelation so you can
also guide others to the Light.
Sal-OM!
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